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    Re: I did a write up on the spider, double check it for me?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    THE guy that imported the first and has dealt with more spiders than anyone else, has to say about the issue.

    I do think this theory could be put to rest by some spider x spider pairingS being done and keeping an eye on the follicles of the females, if somewhere around 25% of them die/reabsorb/not hatch, it may strengthen this theory, but I think people would want to see a lot of eggs before we call it "fact." Which would be a lot of resources to waste for a big breeder to try. So don't expect it any time soon. I think the only chance of proving this, is us small breeders trying it out and all of us putting our data together.

    Another theory, there hasn't been enough spider x spider breedings to prove/disprove a homozygous spider. Well here's the deal with this, you first have a breed a spider x spider. Every spider offspring only has a 33% chance to be homozygous. Then you have to raise that snake up and do multiple breedings to prove it is in fact homozygous, opposed to you just getting really lucky on a clutch. So yes very difficult to prove.

    More info would sway my opinion one way or another. Tho if Kevin said he did enough breedings, he most likely did enough breedings.



    Anyone who owns a spider or seen onE in person most likely already knows what I'm talking about here. The spider has an apparent neurological issue, which I think the best way to describe it, they lose their equilibrium. You may not even see it, it can be aS subtle as them just tilting their head once in a while, shaking in their head or it can be as bad as them corkscrewing their body in the air almost uncontrollably.

    Also, if I hear one more person make a claim that inbreeding may cause the wobble, I think I'm going to scream.

    We breed them because its a morph, every morph is a "defect," do you think a bright white ball python would fair TOO well in Africa? If you don't like them, no one is forcing you to own or like them, but don't you dare make a claim that there is something wrong with others owning them. It's extremely closed minded and Hypocritical.

    In all of my research, I have only found 1 person that makes a claim that they had a baby with a wobble that was so bad, it could not eat. 1 person out of the multiple-thousands of snakes out there. Also I personally would of liked that snake to go under someone else's care to see if something could be done, but I don't know details of the situation. So I guess if you have one they cannot eat, by design it will not be around. But besides the one case, they all eat, poop, breed, and live healthy lives in captivity.
    Idk if when you posted this and asked for someone to double check, you meant double check for grammatical errors, but I went ahead and checked that. W.e I put in bold are words I found that could be fixed, I think in most of the boldings I put the already corrected word or what not. Sorry if this is nto what you were asking for, either way, great post.
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