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    Re: Incubator vs. Natural

    Quote Originally Posted by anatess View Post
    No sir, I am not contradicting myself. My mother is a midwife. Here... this may be a thread hijack but this is info you might wanna scan through to understand what I'm trying to say: http://www.yourchildbirthguide.com/m...or-doctor.html - read through the first few paragraphs under Different Models of Care. And I say being a woman - because being a woman, I've been through 2 pregnancies so I can speak with some semblance of authority on the matter.

    Where I am going with that - pregnancy/childbirth is not a medical event. For humans or animals alike. Complications in pregnancy makes it a medical event. Therefore, having a healthy snake incubate its own eggs is not a "medical hazard".

    I responded on the hatch rate in a previous post. If you missed it - I stated that mine wasn't 100% due to my error (first clutch and all) but that several forum members here on bp.net do have 100% hatch rate year after year. You can search maternal incubation and see for yourself.

    Whether you incubate or you allow the snake to incubate doesn't guarantee you 100% hatch rate. But, you increase the chance of a healthy clutch by knowing what you're doing - in either case.

    P.S. I didn't do maternal incubation because I want it "natural". I went the maternal incubation route because, as my first foray into breeding, I trusted the snake to care for the eggs better than I can. And, the way I feel now, I still trust the snake better than me - therefore, I will continue to do maternal incubation.

    P.P.S. - puting a snake in a rack is not too much different than what the snake instinctively does in the wild - from what researchers have gathered is the natural habits of a ball python. In the wild, researchers report that bp's stay in burrows and do not roam unless thermo-regulating, looking for food, or finding a mate. We provide the same needs in a different way.
    "Being a woman, it is always interesting to me that people treat pregnancy as a medical event. It is not. It's just a normal part of the life cycle. Hence, a lot of people prefer the midwife over an OB. The OB is only there when the event becomes a medical concern (complications such as pre-eclampsia, etc.)" in my mind this is for sure conflicting, u say that midwifes are only there for medical complications? right? but u started off saying its not a medical event i mean come on lady.WHY does it interest you in why people find pregnancy a medical event because there are medical complications regularly. thats all im saying so in my mind that justifys it as a medical event LOL babys die all the time of complications LOL now i could provide links and what not from reliable sources but you should just start a thread so we can start our own convo! HAHAHAHA.

    LOL well im glad you were raised in an enviroment where losing children or eggs was acceptable due to error. as a father I want my children to survive and have access to any care or equipment needed due to complications thats all. therefore my family has allways had it be a "medical event" shocking i know. LOL interesting read. and your in love with this naturalistic vibe with snakes, im sorry i maybe just a realist. I understand that by putting an animal on paper and in a tub I can create a safe enviroment for them its all about the snakes health in captivity thats all. Im not trying to jack threads i have been prone to this lately i apologize.

    I am very interested in natural methods just still think error CAN possibly come into play. thats all and we have proof of this on the thread.
    Last edited by LOSTCOAST_BALLZ; 01-06-2011 at 02:13 AM.

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