Panda Pied Question

[spitzu]

You don't need to get the super cinny/black pastel right at the beginning! You want to cross the black pastel to a pied to start off with, and get your black pastels het pied. Then cross a pair of black pastel het pieds for a 1 in 16 shot at the panda.

The solid black supers will pop out as "leftovers" in that 2nd breeding, with (on average) 3 out of 16 animals being super black pastel 66% het for pied.

I don't think I would ever breed the first set of hets back to each other. I would hate having so many "possible" hets to prove out. Instead, if you take the first clutch of hets and breed it to a pied you'd get a 25% chance of pied hets, 25% black pastel/pied hets, 25% pieds, 25% black pastel/pieds. Nothing to prove out.

Then I'd take the black pastel/pieds and mate them back to each other for the 25% chance of panda pied. This takes another generation of breeding, but you'll have a lot more chances of success. Even if you only get 1 black pastel/pied from the 2nd clutch and have to mate it to a black pastel/het pied, you'd still get 12.5% chance of panda pied, and again... none of the babies are "possible" hets for anything.

I'm going to start this (and lightning/albino pieds) project once my babies are all grown up in a couple of years. It's like being a kid and waiting for Christmas!