Climbing Balls

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The savanna climate has a temperature range of 68° to 86° F (20° - 30° C). In the winter, it is usually about 68° to 78° F (20° - 25° C). In the summer the temperature ranges from 78° to 86° F (25° - 30° C). In a Savanna the temperature does not change a lot. When it does, its very gradual and not drastic.

[kitedemon]

The savanna climate has a temperature range of 68° to 86° F (20° - 30° C). In the winter, it is usually about 68° to 78° F (20° - 25° C). In the summer the temperature ranges from 78° to 86° F (25° - 30° C). In a Savanna the temperature does not change a lot. When it does, its very gradual and not drastic.

Interesting I have seen figures for the grasslands of Togo that are a bit different but similar, winter to summer average LOWs of 75ºF to 80ºF August being the coldest and Feb to March the warmest. High averages are like 80ºF to 90ºF of so but one can assume lower and higher as the information I have is monthly averages.

We can never get everything right all we can do is try to build the best environment we can for the animals in our care.

[thedarkwolf25]

Thanks Judy!
Well Said!

OP if you do get plants at walmart ect. check one thing sometimes the dyes or paints use will rub off. especially true of grass like plant bunches, I always rub one leaf in the store and see if any colour transfers. I avoid any that does transfer.

And Mike are you sure yours are not improper? No snake should ALWAYS be in its hides. Perhaps you have something that isn't quite right.

Thanks Kite I didn't consider that fact. I don't think the ones we got are like that though, they appear to be molded plastic and not painted but I'll double check that.

[kitedemon]

NP I picked up some grass stuff from the dollar store a while back and while I was messing with it I had tan stuff all over my hands it was from the plants so I tossed them.

[thedarkwolf25]

I checked mine and after 30 secs of vigorous rubbing no ink came off so it should be fine.

[MitsuMike]

Thanks Judy!
Well Said!

OP if you do get plants at walmart ect. check one thing sometimes the dyes or paints use will rub off. especially true of grass like plant bunches, I always rub one leaf in the store and see if any colour transfers. I avoid any that does transfer.

And Mike are you sure yours are not improper? No snake should ALWAYS be in its hides. Perhaps you have something that isn't quite right.

I never said ALWAYS. I said all D-A-Y. Yes BPs are nocturnal in case you didn't know. And yes my rack powered by my herpstat pro running the flex watt at 91.6 give or take belly bask and 80.7 give or take cool side, must be wrong right? With a space heater to keep the room heated as well in case of low temps outside I'm at work. Before you go running your unintelligent trap know what your talking about first. Even if you hate me, I'm still right. Hate it or love it my way is best. Not it works and they eat, no its the best.
And actually it's not my way. It's the true BP way. There is a reason all good reptile owners follow the correct path.

[SpencerShanks]

Mine has been climbing around quite a bit today. He seems to climb all day one day, then do nothing for a few days.

[jbean7916]

I never said ALWAYS. I said all D-A-Y. Yes BPs are nocturnal in case you didn't know. And yes my rack powered by my herpstat pro running the flex watt at 91.6 give or take belly bask and 80.7 give or take cool side, must be wrong right? With a space heater to keep the room heated as well in case of low temps outside I'm at work. Before you go running your unintelligent trap know what your talking about first. Even if you hate me, I'm still right. Hate it or love it my way is best. Not it works and they eat, no its the best.
And actually it's not my way. It's the true BP way. There is a reason all good reptile owners follow the correct path.

I think that you should possibly re-read what you have written before you hit post. You might not think that you are coming off like an arrogant and rude person but you are. You are making assumptions about what a ball python truly needs. Now, yes, they have been studied in their natural habitats, but that doesn't mean the people who studied them saw everything. You mention them being nocturnal, so how do we know that wild balls don't climb small brush at night? Temperatures you are quoting are air temps of the natural environment but you said yourself that they are burrowing snakes. What then do you think in the temp difference below ground because a 5 degree drop wouldn't be unthinkable. If a snake is given a temp gradient in the range of the natural habitat it will hang out where it is most comfortable. And just because the space is bigger than MOST people prefer, if the snake is showing no signs of stress, why is it any of your concern?



And finally, to the OP, make sure you check those vines for any circular wires. I bought a couple and they had little rings that needed to be popped off before letting my baby in with him just in case he though he would fit but wouldn't

[thedarkwolf25]

I think that you should possibly re-read what you have written before you hit post. You might not think that you are coming off like an arrogant and rude person but you are. You are making assumptions about what a ball python truly needs. Now, yes, they have been studied in their natural habitats, but that doesn't mean the people who studied them saw everything. You mention them being nocturnal, so how do we know that wild balls don't climb small brush at night? Temperatures you are quoting are air temps of the natural environment but you said yourself that they are burrowing snakes. What then do you think in the temp difference below ground because a 5 degree drop wouldn't be unthinkable. If a snake is given a temp gradient in the range of the natural habitat it will hang out where it is most comfortable. And just because the space is bigger than MOST people prefer, if the snake is showing no signs of stress, why is it any of your concern?



And finally, to the OP, make sure you check those vines for any circular wires. I bought a couple and they had little rings that needed to be popped off before letting my baby in with him just in case he though he would fit but wouldn't

Will do, they do have some rings on the end but they are so small that I think they are designed for push pins. But I'll check for any closed loops.

[JLC]

I never said ALWAYS. I said all D-A-Y. Yes BPs are nocturnal in case you didn't know. And yes my rack powered by my herpstat pro running the flex watt at 91.6 give or take belly bask and 80.7 give or take cool side, must be wrong right? With a space heater to keep the room heated as well in case of low temps outside I'm at work. Before you go running your unintelligent trap know what your talking about first. Even if you hate me, I'm still right. Hate it or love it my way is best. Not it works and they eat, no its the best.
And actually it's not my way. It's the true BP way. There is a reason all good reptile owners follow the correct path.

You really need to get over yourself. No one said your temps were wrong....they just said your attitude sucks. There is no "True BP way", but if you're absolutely dead set on pushing yours on everyone, then I strongly encourage you to start your OWN site and write your own caresheets and books.