Quote Originally Posted by JLC View Post
If I believe in what the Bible says about all of this...then it's not up to ME to determine someone's motivations for what they do. That is strictly between them and God. And if you don't believe in God, or don't believe in what the Bible says about all of this...then their motivation and the Biblical consequences of it are rather a moot point, wouldn't you say?

I don't have to decide if I think someone is bragging or working with a right heart. If you want to make that judgment call, then that is entirely up to you. Makes no nevermind to me.
Well and if you look at my original post that's my point. I think its wrong for someone to quote the bible as a reason not to talk about their good works. I believe in the bible in as much as I own one, its real. I don't believe its a moral guide inspired by a supernatural all powerful being or anything like that so I would have to say its all moot. My entire point is that its wrong to use a quote from a book to impose your will on another and especially so when a few sentences earlier in the same book it talks about how you should do the opposite and now we get down to arguing that its all about what a person is thinking at the time. Well fine, ok so its complicated but it wasn't so complicated a second ago when dsirkle said you shouldn't be talking about your good works and here is why. So to sum up, I don't accept the bible as a moral authority, I don't accept dsirkle's or Jim's interpretation of the book, even if I did I don't concede that anyone here is bragging as they are talking about things they did when asked to do so.