Big Gunns answer to a pm from JLC

[Big Gunns]

Did
you read your response before you sent it to the board? That sounds
rediculous. It's okay to sink a million dollar ship and put a few dozen
human beings in danger? And for what, your own personal interpretation
of "International Law"? When did the Sea Shepherd group become
marshalls of the sea? I don't agree with what Japan is doing, but to
purposely sink a ship to prove your point is going way too far.

Have you watched that group of imbecils on that ship? They can't do
anything without screwing things up. The best was running a 4 inch rope
to try to foul the prop of the Japanese ship. However, they attached
the rope to about 400 pounds of steel pipe. Did they actually think
that the rope running through 400 pounds of steel pipe was going to
float long enough to catch a prop?

If this is your idea of memorializing Steve Erwin, you've got a funny
way of showing it. He believed in education.

Jim Smith

Big Gunns will agree with you on the "interpretation" of the law.
However, BG thinks we can all agree they are not taking the whales for
"scientific research". There would be no need to say that if they were
within the "law".

Steve Irwin was going to go on a campaign before his death. BG has no
way of confirming this, but since the ship was named after him with the
blessing of his wife, BG believes this to be true.

As far as the "imbecils" as you put it on the ship. BG will not
criticize people who are risking their life with no real training to
save the whales. Sure most of them are not real sailors, but BG salutes
them for their dedication to a cause they believe in.

How are they "illegally killing whales"? They
are mandated to a number of whales they can take. This coming from an
international committee that is responsible for whaling. True, they say
they are doing it for research, but we know it's not. But with that
said, they NEVER harvest more than their quota.

Sound illegal to me...NOT.

Sinking ships because you don't agree with the policy of an internation
whaling committee, wrong. Any way you look at it.

Don't get me wrong. I don't agree with Japan's harvest of any whales,
but as long as the committee approves of their actions, what can you do?
Try to change the voting for next year. If that doesn't work, don't
inact your own justice. That's illegal in almost every country.


Jim Smith

Like BG stated earlier. Clearly they are bending the law to suit them.
"Scientific research" BG's perfect behind.

Look, BG knows what SS does is a leeetle extreme, but like BG said
earlier. The people on this forum would advocate nuclear weapons if they
were saving Ball Pythons from "scientific research".

Actually, this is incorrect if I recall correctly.
I seem to remember seeing some data about "incidental" kills of whales
that were not accounted for in allotments. Fishing net drownings,
collisions with boats and, I think, one other weird one that left
perfectly usable dead whales who had died is ways that were difficult to
prove or disprove and were not accounted for at all.

It was a lot of whales and not just Japan doing it.

Nope it's not just Japan doing it, and SS is going to the Faroe Islands
next to challenge them. Now this could get real ugly.

Well BG has to ask. What would you guys suggest they do and what are you
doing about it? BG can see through what you're really doing here.
Debating with Big Gunns in the hopes of proving him wrong because you don't like Big Gunns. Both of you
could really care less, but keep trying on the BG thing. You may not
realize it, but EVERYONE can see your real motives and they're sad....sad and pathetic.

So, let me get this straight, you actually approve of sinking ships that are within their rights to harvest whales? Regardless of your opinion, whether it's wrong or right, do you honestly approve of piracy on the open waters.

All you have to do is look at the Sea shepherd's flag that it flies under. It's a Jolly Roger Flag. A flag that is internationally known to be a flag flown on pirate ships.

They admit to being pirates, but they are doing it for the good of the whale. Well, as long a Japan doesn't take more than their quota, they are doing NOTHING illegal. Immoral yes, big time, but not illegal. So when Neil says Japan is illegally killing whales, he is wrong.

As long as the Internation Whaling Committee approves of the number of whales Japan can harvest, it is a LEGAL action. Even if they say they are doing it all for research, they are within their rights to take that specific number of whales according to the IWC.

I jsut looked it up on the internet, it's actually called the International Whaling Commission.

If you have issues with Japan's whaling, this is where you should be directing your anger.

Jim Smith

BG knows all about the IWC. Come on Smitty. You know it's not "scientific research".

One more thing. BG isn't out on that ship. BG is in Japan with the hopes of letting the rest of the world know what they're doing in "The Cove". Now that is perfectly legal in Japan, but BG doesn't approve of it and hopes to have the law in Japan changed. There are many others in Japan that feel the same way and BG is now working with them to help change their law.

Neil wouldn't make a blister on Steve Erwin's baby toe. So what, he goes to Japan and keeps an eye on the people killing dolphins. What is that doing other than allowing him to puff his chest, and say what a great job he's doing.


Jim Smith

Maybe not, but Big Gunns can spell his name correctly at least.