Question on Breeding Large amounts of rats

[tomfromtheshade]

what have you produced cooler than that Manx?

There is always blue, self, rex, dumbo manx.

Shh...

I'm actually in the process of trying to build a small army of Manx males to do my dirty work and I am going to be incorporating the gene into a lot of different things.

How about transmogrophiers? LOL. They start out one color and turn siamese. Its pretty incredible to watch them change.

I know that you play it off, but you're dying to get one of my black self dumbo males to add to your colony LOL. I have one saved for you man. You just have to say the word.

[suzuki4life]

There is always blue, self, rex, dumbo manx.

Shh...

I'm actually in the process of trying to build a small army of Manx males to do my dirty work and I am going to be incorporating the gene into a lot of different things.

How about transmogrophiers? LOL. They start out one color and turn siamese. Its pretty incredible to watch them change.

I know that you play it off, but you're dying to get one of my black self dumbo males to add to your colony LOL. I have one saved for you man. You just have to say the word.

you see that's cheating. You are taking an existing morph and adding to it or taking away. You need to start out with two commons and change things until you get a good strain. Making a morph from a morph doesn't take skill, it just takes time

rookie!

[BAMReptiles]

so far my best is a few dumbo double rexes , hairless dumbo soon to follow

[JIFFY]

ask your advice givers the last time they produced 5000 rats a month. I don't like giving advice based on theory. Second, ask Tom who has more actual expertise hands on doing exactly what you hope to do. Tom has a similar game plan figured out but isn't there yet. You are a fine example of why good, precise and knowledgeable help stays away from replying to you.

And for the record, I run 1.8 not 1.6.

[How rude.]

[wilomn]

[How rude.]

Does it take one to know one?

You don't know as much as you think you do. I'm sure you've heard, and most likely ignored that, many MANY times before.

You're not rude, but you are rather prickly yourself.

Do you know any words that have more than 2 syllables?

[koloo921]

Just an idea. I have a small colony and produce around 400-500 a month. I would think that it would be easier to build large holding pens. (5x10ft). I don't know how or out of what. I would run 1.25 in those pens. I would take all the females out after 2 weeks and put them into birthing tubs. I have had higher production by only having 2 females giving birth together. I used to have 3 females in a tub and had lower numbers because of fighting over the babies. If I had a place to expand, that is what I would do. It would take a lot less time to clean larger pens than individual tubs. I also give my females a week or 2 before being bred again. I have experienced smaller litters when being bred back to back. I have 27 tubs and it takes me about 3 hrs a week to clean.
Hope this helps and Good Luck

[suzuki4life]

if you build a 5'x10' rat pen, I want pictures!!!!!

you have a small colony but you have 27 tubs?

It takes you 3 hours to clean 27 tubs? Are you boiling each tub?

[koloo921]

if you build a 5'x10' rat pen, I want pictures!!!!!

you have a small colony but you have 27 tubs?

It takes you 3 hours to clean 27 tubs? Are you boiling each tub?

LOL Almost. They get washed and disinfected with bleach. Its my Friday night date, so I take my time.

I also switch breeders and give a quick health exam to each rat.

[jasbus]

Guess I'll pipe in also..
*I see you are renting a building, is it a stand alone building, or in a strip mall kind of thing?
*Does the landlord know what you are intending to do in his rented space? Rats are destructive.
*That kind of numbers would easily fill a 6 yard dumpster with waste. Dumpsters are cheap, but not that cheap, keep that in mind.
*Find your feed source before you start! Mills constantly run out of food supplies for a few weeks at a time. Find at least two local sources to get your blocks from.
*They smell. alot. Exhaust fan first!

I just switched over to harem breeding myself, after years of breeding 1.2 per lab cage. I get way better numbers breeding 1.6-1.8 per tub and pulling preggos out a week before they pop. Usually run either a solo female, or 2 females per hatching tub. Not nearly as many pinkie deaths that way.
I built my breeding racks, 6 high, side by side. That way, the 12 tubs are on a single watering bucket.

[suzuki4life]

Once you break 1.10 the breeding suffers severely. Most males just can not keep up solo.