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Re: anyone see the nerd interview?
 Originally Posted by zbyers7
My first bp morph was a spider and its 100 percent true that people need to stop selling snakes for so cheap. We need to recover the market or else it will be impossible to make money. Plus all these morphs are amazing. Its not right for people to be able to go out and disgrace a designer that someone worked at making for 10 years. Pastel yellowbellys should go for way more then they are now! Sorry to say but it shouldnt be that accessible for some people. You should have to work for it!
If everything other than a normal cost $25,000, you would only have about 100 people in the country who would own morphs. The rest either wouldn't have the money to buy them, or wouldn't consider it ever worth that amount of money.
Also, the only way to "recover" the market is for people to stop breeding snakes, and since a lot of people do this as a hobby and not a business, you'll never see that.
I really don't see why more people having access to morphs is a bad thing.
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Re: anyone see the nerd interview?
 Originally Posted by Jeo123
If everything other than a normal cost $25,000, you would only have about 100 people in the country who would own morphs. The rest either wouldn't have the money to buy them, or wouldn't consider it ever worth that amount of money.
Also, the only way to "recover" the market is for people to stop breeding snakes, and since a lot of people do this as a hobby and not a business, you'll never see that.
I really don't see why more people having access to morphs is a bad thing.
yea I hear ya. I feel however that if more people owned snakes then the values would go up. Supply in demand. Some snakes could afford to be a little more in price. I dont mean 25,000$$. Im talking a few hundred over what it is now. Like pastels. People sell pastels for 50 dollars sometimes! Thats a shame!
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Zbyers7, welcome to the pyramid scheme known as 'trying to make money with ball pythons'.
It's huge and convoluted and mildly difficult to explain, but the TRUTH of the matter is that ball python morphs are severely OVER-priced to their true value.
There is nothing any one person can do to increase prices other than 1) reduce supply (STOP BREEDING) or 2) spend more money (get a high-paying job and spend ALL your money on snakes. big breeders rely on people who fall into #2 to support this entire hobby).
In addition, some big-name guys tend to think they are capable of producing numerous top-dollar animals AND keep prices high at the same time. These two goals are unfortunately contradictory. The best they can hope to do is artificially inflate prices temporarily, and set the whole system up for a dramatic price crash in the future. We've seen it in the past, we will see more of it to come.
Since practically all ball pythons selling TODAY for over $250 are seen as 'investments' you want to make money on, there are too many people expecting to make a profit with too few people pumping cash into the hobby without a desire to profit.
All that money you hope to make on high-end morphs has to come from somewhere, and since ball pythons don't crap dollar bills, that means that someone has to make negative cash when spending on reptiles.
I'm betting fewer and fewer people are going to be happy making negative cash on animals seen as 'investment' animals. Prices are going to crash.
Don't think of it as a bad thing. Just think of it as the universe balancing itself out.
Last edited by mainbutter; 11-19-2010 at 07:45 PM.
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Re: anyone see the nerd interview?
 Originally Posted by zbyers7
yea I hear ya. I feel however that if more people owned snakes then the values would go up. Supply in demand. Some snakes could afford to be a little more in price. I dont mean 25,000$$. Im talking a few hundred over what it is now. Like pastels. People sell pastels for 50 dollars sometimes! Thats a shame!
You're correct, if more people wanted to buy snakes, prices would go up. But at the same time, if prices went up, less people would want snakes. Supply and demand works both ways.
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Wow, you all have some good comments on this subject. I see that the industry, like all others have there ups and downs. I hope we dont see the crash anytime soon, but everything has to eventualy to balance itself out. Such is business economics. I guess all we can do is keep being supportive and loving are hobby. When it does crash then it will come back like everything. Hopefully the time in between is short.
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Re: anyone see the nerd interview?
 Originally Posted by zbyers7
My first bp morph was a spider and its 100 percent true that people need to stop selling snakes for so cheap. We need to recover the market or else it will be impossible to make money. Plus all these morphs are amazing. Its not right for people to be able to go out and disgrace a designer that someone worked at making for 10 years. Pastel yellowbellys should go for way more then they are now! Sorry to say but it shouldnt be that accessible for some people. You should have to work for it!
I understand what your saying, but thats just buissness its your job to make a product better than then the rest thats why they have to keep maken new morphs. No body should exclusive rights to a wild animal, its all about trying to be better than the rest and if your not better then the rest then you set your prices to such, if i make a bubble bee i put the work into it myself and should price it how i want. When the ps3 first came out it was like 600 dollers and it dident sell much while the xbox offered almost the same thing for much less and ps3 flunked in sales its all about price compared to compettion and, thats what america is built on.
Last edited by kalashnikov; 11-20-2010 at 02:50 AM.
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Re: anyone see the nerd interview?
 Originally Posted by kalashnikov
I understand what your saying, but thats just buissness its your job to make a product better than then the rest thats why they have to keep maken new morphs. No body should exclusive rights to a wild animal, its all about trying to be better than the rest and if your not better then the rest then you set your prices to such, if i make a bubble bee i put the work into it myself and should price it how i want. When the ps3 first came out it was like 600 dollers and it dident sell much while the xbox offered almost the same thing for much less and ps3 flunked in sales its all about price compared to compettion and, thats what america is built on.
well said. Very true. I just would like to see things improve. I really believe thow that if more people got into bp's then the market would increase in value. I might start life insurance for reptiles when it does. You think I can make good money on that??? LMAO
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Re: anyone see the nerd interview?
Hey man you do an awesome job with those interviews! NERD has some amazing creatures and I am completely blown away everytime I get the chance to visit, which should be more often cause I live in the town next door, but still lol
Awesome work!
On a side note, I never had a clue where Athol is, but my new delivery route I get the pleasure of stopping there a few times a week. Looks like a pretty nice area
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Re: anyone see the nerd interview?
 Originally Posted by MAballs
thanks RM. good lookin
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