What to do?

[BuckeyeBalls]

I would be thankful for not getting thrown out for violating their rules and would gladly pay the 300 deposit,

Yea but their terms say the deposit is for "small cats and dogs" thats why i never offered up the $300 in the beginning and said i had pets.

[iCandiBallPythons]

I can see where you're coming from , if theyre going to have a pet policy, you would think it should be better worded like "all pets" instead only cats and dogs

[steveboos]

Yea but their terms say the deposit is for "small cats and dogs" thats why i never offered up the $300 in the beginning and said i had pets.

Yes get them to clarify this first, cause usually the lease will specifically state pets, but in this case it's cats or dogs. If there isn't a fine print hanging out someone or underlying clause, i would say that the fee is unjust.

[BuckeyeBalls]

I can see where you're coming from , if theyre going to have a pet policy, you would think it should be better worded like "all pets" instead only cats and dogs

Exactly thats why im so hesitant about paying it as their not "cats or dogs" like the lease states nor do i think other people are paying for their smaller animals like u guys have mentioned like goldfish and such.

[Vypyrz]

Thanks for the advise!

And here is my big issue with paying $300 to keep the snakes.

Its a "deposit" to keep a "pet" my snakes are not gonna pee on the carpet and ruin it so it needs replaced. They will not cause damage to the apartment so it needs repairs. But we all know the likelihood of me getting the deposit back even if no damage was done as a result of my snakes is not reasonable.

I would say just pay the deposit and when/if you move out, then address getting the deposit back due to lack of carpet damage. Raising a stink about reptiles, rodents and fish not being mentioned in the lease may cause changes in the lease agreements to where they are mentioned, as in not allowed...

[BuckeyeBalls]

I would say just pay the deposit and when/if you move out, then address getting the deposit back due to lack of carpet damage. Raising a stink about reptiles, rodents and fish not being mentioned in the lease may cause changes in the lease agreements to where they are mentioned, as in not allowed...

True well i got a call back. Im supposed to go talk to him at 1:30 so here soon.

Ill let you guys know how it goes.

[BuckeyeBalls]

Alright so when i went to talk to him i brought up the subject that the lease only says cat and dogs. He said it pertains to all "pets" to cause the damage of the property.

So i proceded to ask about fish, hamsters, and such animals he said they are also covered under "pets" but has not had anyone pay for such animals yet

So i started to talk about how it could not damage the apartment and after 15 mins or so he asked if he could see the way they were being kept. Showed him around and he was actually very interested in them. So then i brought up the subject of the guy looking through my stuff. He said he will check to see who was in the house and look into it.

Needless to say i still had to pay but not what it was before. I ended up paying $50 to cover the possible "smell" my snakes could leave behind to cover the removal of the "smell"

Thats as far as i was willing to negotiate over the issue, tho he is making me add something to my rack to keep them in the apartment ask they could be "potentially dangerous animals" so he informed me i needed to add "lock" type things to the rack to ensure the snake cannot push the tub out on its own and escape. Any ides how i can do this he said there will be a follow up check to ensure i followed what was requested.

[JLC]

Alright so when i went to talk to him i brought up the subject that the lease only says cat and dogs. He said it pertains to all "pets" to cause the damage of the property.

So i proceded to ask about fish, hamsters, and such animals he said they are also covered under "pets" but has not had anyone pay for such animals yet

So i started to talk about how it could not damage the apartment and after 15 mins or so he asked if he could see the way they were being kept. Showed him around and he was actually very interested in them. So then i brought up the subject of the guy looking through my stuff. He said he will check to see who was in the house and look into it.

Needless to say i still had to pay but not what it was before. I ended up paying $50 to cover the possible "smell" my snakes could leave behind to cover the removal of the "smell"

Thats as far as i was willing to negotiate over the issue, tho he is making me add something to my rack to keep them in the apartment ask they could be "potentially dangerous animals" so he informed me i needed to add "lock" type things to the rack to ensure the snake cannot push the tub out on its own and escape. Any ides how i can do this he said there will be a follow up check to ensure i followed what was requested.

Given how utterly unreasonable some people can be over the keeping of snakes, I think things went really well for you.

One valid concern I would imagine landlords might have is what they would do if one of your snakes (or anyone's) escaped and disappeared into the walls of the building. That risk would warrant a higher deposit, in my opinion. But of course, as a tenant, I would never bring that up myself!

Regarding the placement of "locks"...my hubby is the same way with my little rack. It HAD to have some kind of mechanism that would prevent the snakes from pushing their tubs out (which is actually not possible to do..it'd be like trying to pick yourself up by your boot straps...but yeah...whatever ). I'm not sure what kind of rack system you have, but if you can drill a small hole through the middle of each shelf, you can insert a pin/dowel/fat nail/doodad/whatever in each hole. Depending on how it's set up (and what kind of pin you end up using), they can either block the upper lip of the tub from sliding out...or brace against the bottom of the tub to keep it from sliding. I'm sure you can find something inexpensive at the hardware store that would serve as a suitable pin.

[Ntume]

The first rack I made I used the lockup thing you mention.

Here's a pic:





Don't know the exact english words for what I'm using, but they are used in closets to hold up the metal bar where you hang your shirts and such on. And in stead of metal bars, I used wooden ones from the DIY store.

Hope this helps,

Greets Yaron

[BuckeyeBalls]

Given how utterly unreasonable some people can be over the keeping of snakes, I think things went really well for you.

One valid concern I would imagine landlords might have is what they would do if one of your snakes (or anyone's) escaped and disappeared into the walls of the building. That risk would warrant a higher deposit, in my opinion. But of course, as a tenant, I would never bring that up myself!

Regarding the placement of "locks"...my hubby is the same way with my little rack. It HAD to have some kind of mechanism that would prevent the snakes from pushing their tubs out (which is actually not possible to do..it'd be like trying to pick yourself up by your boot straps...but yeah...whatever ). I'm not sure what kind of rack system you have, but if you can drill a small hole through the middle of each shelf, you can insert a pin/dowel/fat nail/doodad/whatever in each hole. Depending on how it's set up (and what kind of pin you end up using), they can either block the upper lip of the tub from sliding out...or brace against the bottom of the tub to keep it from sliding. I'm sure you can find something inexpensive at the hardware store that would serve as a suitable pin.

Ah good idea.

Yea i was wondering how a snake could push the tub out that hes in o.O

i guess if there was a gap maybe but the tub sits a good half inch away from from the front of the shelf so he cant wedge himself in a crack and push lol.

Tho he did tell me that if i have any escapes it would be bad for me and future snake keepers. Not quite sure what he meant by that so i just let it go lol