Jaguar coastal carpet python info plz help

[Andrew24]

i was wanting to know how much jaguar coastal carpet pythons are??? ive looked used Google and came up with nothing.. i emaild some breeders and no responds... so does anyone on here know aN avg price for a hatchling?.. also who is a good breeder who is trustworthy and i also had some ?s about this snake

1.) i heard that it has some disabilities.. similar to those of the spiders ball pythons head wobble.. i heard this a long time ago and i can't remember what exactly it was... it wasn't a head wobble but it was a genetic problem with the jaguar gene.. does anyone know anything about this?

2.) are all jaguar carpets coastal???

3.) do all jaguar coastal carpet python grow to about the normal size of the coastal carpets anywhere from 7ft to 11ft? if that's not correct how big do they get?

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!!!!

[OhhWatALoser]

there not really a price you can put on them, they vary in quality alot, just have to see what each person is asking. I paid 850 for my IJ jag and i think that was a steal.

1.) yes they have the type of issue, nothing to worry about

2.) Yes

3.) All Jags are coastals so yes, its just a morph.

[Inugohan]

Jaguars price varies alot, I bought mine last year for $1000 but they come as cheap as $150, however I'm in Canada so prices will be different. Again for good breeders I won't be alot of help, but there are plenty depending on what you want(so much to choose from, not as simple as just asking for a jaguar lol)

The disability is much like the spider ball pythons disability, occasinally spins, occasionally can't hold its head up straight, and sometimes even goes completely upside down. Generally though, the neurological disorder is quite minor, again like spider ball pythons. Like said above really nothing to worry about.

The Jaguar is a codominate gene originally found in coastals, but has been bred into the other carpet subspecies, as well as bredli pythons and green tree pythons. But yes the jaguar gene is coastal and there are pure coastal jag's available. Would want to buy from a reputable breeder to be sure.

I'm sure a pure coastal jaguar has the same growth potential as a normal coastal, when you start getting into integrades I'm sure they can still grow up to 11 feet I mean who really knows. The point is, be ready for it lol, if it does get that big can you provide an 8x2 or are you stuck with a 4x2. Maybe get a male then, as the likely hood is much smaller(never seen a male coastal over 10' myself, I'm sure they're out there though)

Good luck, carpets pythons are amazing snakes to own. ~Caylan.s.~

[Andrew24]

there not really a price you can put on them, they vary in quality alot, just have to see what each person is asking. I paid 850 for my IJ jag and i think that was a steal.

1.) yes they have the type of issue, nothing to worry about

2.) Yes

3.) All Jags are coastals so yes, its just a morph.

whats the diff between a IJ jag and a just jag coastal? do they normally cost more or less saying that the ij jag and the other jag are the same quality?

also could you maybe give me a range anything would help... say how much would a low quality be and how much would the best quality be.. quality being color of parents and maybe how bad that disorder is in the parents... thanks for your help!

(I'm new to carpet pythons. i have 2 ball pythons and want something different in my collection and something that gets bigger but not huge like burms or retics, and i just fell in love with the jag carpets when i saw them)

[Russ Lawson]

whats the diff between a IJ jag and a just jag coastal? do they normally cost more or less saying that the ij jag and the other jag are the same quality?

also could you maybe give me a range anything would help... say how much would a low quality be and how much would the best quality be.. quality being color of parents and maybe how bad that disorder is in the parents... thanks for your help!

(I'm new to carpet pythons. i have 2 ball pythons and want something different in my collection and something that gets bigger but not huge like burms or retics, and i just fell in love with the jag carpets when i saw them)

People have bred coastal jaguars to pretty much every other Morelia spilota subspecies/local out there in the US. The IJ jag would most likely be 50% IJ and 50% coastal. Personally I prefer pure coastal jags, but there are jungle jags and I believe diamond jags out there as well. I can't really give you a price to expect as I haven't kept track of the market for carpets much this year.

[mainbutter]

whats the diff between a IJ jag and a just jag coastal? do they normally cost more or less saying that the ij jag and the other jag are the same quality?

The answer to an apparently simple question is surprisingly complex, when we start discussing intergrades and such.

In short, IJ jags (and all non-coastal jags) are essentially mutts, or no longer pure locality animals. Some breeders wanted to combine the jaguar trait with the genetic influences of other localities, so they bred coastal jags with other localities. Successive breedings can produce animals that have a higher amount of locality influence.

Producing mutts in a hobby where many people are 'locality purists' is an issue people debate about all the time.

However, the results of some of these breedings speak for themselves. Check out John Battaglia's Gamma-line jaguars over at www.moreliatrophyclub.com to see for yourself.

Price, like everything in this hobby, is determined by supply and demand. Most non-pure locality jaguars are special projects with fewer animals in existence, and command a higher price despite being mutts. Coastal jaguars are incredibly beautiful themselves, and IMO it's very hard to beat an older female coastal with some SIZE on her. A 10 foot jaguar is an impressive snake.

For exact prices I've seen this year, coastal jags have been anywhere from $200-600, and intergrade jags have been anywhere from $300-1500+. These animals are pretty accurately priced on how nice they should turn out as adults, but not always. I generally guess how nice a hatchling is by the pattern it has, and the coloration of the parents.

For more information about carpet pythons and morelia in general, I'd highly recommend hitting up the moreliapythons.com forum. A number of the well-known carpet python guys in the US are on there.