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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by demjor19 View Post
    The breeder I get most of my snakes from mentioned that his hypo's do have a marker, but I forget what it was (I'll have to give him a call). At the last show he pointed out all of his hets for sale...they were axanthics, lavenders, ghosts, and piebalds and they were labled as possible het. Out of those he went though every one and pointed out whether or not they actually carried the genes (he even did this with several double hets). Granted this was an educated guess, but he said he has proven them out based on these markings on a regular basis.

    I'm sure this is also different with every line of an animal, but I am a strong believer in markers...as long as the animal in question is from a known line of a given morph (not just a random animal in a pet store). I also understand that many hets have no markers...as I have seen plenty of het. pieds with no visual markers.

    Just my 2 cents.
    iv got an idea what marker he might be talking about for a ghosts, i figured something out with them a while ago, but im gunna have to keep my mouth shut on it til i have it sorted for sure >_<

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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    Many het hypos look a out half way between normal and hypo. Some even shed clear like hypos. But like the pied marker seen in most het pieds it isn't 100% but both can be very helpful when picking which babies to keep back and which to sell as normals.

    My mojave Het Hypos are really easy to spot.. it's weird..
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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Head Spots...that's all I have to say! We have produced over 40 Het Hypos throughout the past years and EVERY one of them had a head spot.

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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloanreptiles View Post
    Head Spots...that's all I have to say! We have produced over 40 Het Hypos throughout the past years and EVERY one of them had a head spot.
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    guess some "recessive" traits arn't recessive then

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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sloanreptiles View Post
    Head Spots...that's all I have to say! We have produced over 40 Het Hypos throughout the past years and EVERY one of them had a head spot.
    How would I spot this on a Pastel Het Ghost? I will be breeding my male Pastel Het. Ghost to a big female normal this year and I wanted to try spotting what I feel are my best "het" candidates. The head spot and orangish color would both be fairly difficult to spot on a pastel...IMO. Do they have any kind of belly markers? If I recall...my breeder pointed out his Het Ghosts have something going on with their stomachs.

    Thanks for the comments guys.
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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by demjor19 View Post
    How would I spot this on a Pastel Het Ghost? I will be breeding my male Pastel Het. Ghost to a big female normal this year and I wanted to try spotting what I feel are my best "het" candidates. The head spot and orangish color would both be fairly difficult to spot on a pastel...IMO. Do they have any kind of belly markers? If I recall...my breeder pointed out his Het Ghosts have something going on with their stomachs.

    Thanks for the comments guys.
    Pastel het ghosts tend to be lighter and brighter than plain pastels of the same age/size. Het ghost may or may not show on a normal het but it can be quite obvious when in combination with some co-dom morphs, particularly those that are also reduced melanin like pastels.

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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by yardy View Post
    Pastel het ghosts tend to be lighter and brighter than plain pastels of the same age/size. Het ghost may or may not show on a normal het but it can be quite obvious when in combination with some co-dom morphs, particularly those that are also reduced melanin like pastels.
    I have a pastel that's het for ghost and I haven't seen many with this kind of blushing:

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    Both Ian G. Line black pastels one is also a 100% het ghost one is a a normal Black pastel.


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    Re: Het Hypo/Ghost visual markers?

    Quote Originally Posted by piper View Post
    I have a pastel that's het for ghost and I haven't seen many with this kind of blushing:
    Should mention it's only 66% poss het hypo.

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