Is this a Fire

[meeistom]

The entire lot was various morphs there was not a single normal in it. The breeder thought he could breed a whole bunch of morphs and make some quick cash. Well he found that caring for over 300 hatchlings was too much for him to handle so me and a few others bought out all of them.
This guy was only one we could not agree what morph he was. Sent numerous emails to the breeder over the course of the last week but he never got back to me. My friend went to his place yesterday to buy some of the adults and told the breeder to contact me. He finally did. I gave him the info off his feeding card and he confirmed the morph and parents.

BEL = Black Eyed Lucy sorry if I confused anyone

[Sariel]

Alot of times to avoid the confusion, Ive seen people use:
BEL= Blue eyed lucy
BLKEL=black eyed lucy.


My .02 Doesnt look like a fire to me. I'm by no means an expert, but I have my own and spent alot of time researching them to make sure I knew what I was looking at.
COuld be that it is and it just looks different, could be that a breeder with too much to handle got alittle confused on what he bagged up.

[Totally Morphed]

I'm no spector expert, but it looks like a spector to me. I could be way off, but it doesn't look at all like a fire... more like a spector or whirlwind.

Definitely looks more specter than fire, if anything other than normal.

[Shadera]

Just curious, what other morphs were in the lot? There are a lot of folks still selling lots of special bush babies.

Doesn't look fire to me, but it's a fine normal.

[littleindiangirl]

Once you've seen a lot of normals as babies and adults, you know what a non-normal morph looks like. It looks like a very nice reduced normal.

I would be hesitant to start breeding it and calling it a fire until its bred out to prove it.

Just my .02 cents, you could get burned if you can't prove it's a fire until bred, and sell to someone when it's not.

[meeistom]

Having seen the parents of the snakes that were purchased and the breeding records and the siblings he is not a normal. I showed him in person to a local breeder and he does breed fires and he also agreed it's a fire not a great example of one but it is. No I didn't tell him what I thought it might be I simply asked what he thought it is and he said a fire not a good fire but it has the right head pattern, and the right color. The picture does not do his bright yellow on jet black coloration justice. His siblings are much better examples of the morph.
The lot had albino, pastel, yellow belly, ivory, fire, black eyed lucy, blue eyed lucy, mojave, spider, bee, super pastel, genetic stripes, ghost, pastave, and a few more that I can't remember. Mostly dom's and co dom's with double's as well. Nothing too crazy. I only got part of the group the 316 snakes were split between 5 people. I personally only got 32 snakes of the group. All of mine are co dom morphs.

Just curious, what other morphs were in the lot? There are a lot of folks still selling lots of special bush babies.

Doesn't look fire to me, but it's a fine normal.

[h00blah]

dinkerrrr - normal

[elijah]

if it was a fire female and a bel male there would be no single fire gene unless it was a black eyed

[snakesRkewl]

Yes there would, fire to BEL makes Fires and Bel's no normals.