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    about killer Bee

    HI!
    anybody can teach me how to calculate the genetic of killer bee ,i m very confuse about it !

    for bumble bee X super pastel we got the gen

    P2S (P2--pastel) (S--- spider) ----bumble bee

    P2P2 (P2--pastel)(P2--pastel) ---- super pastel

    so bumble bee X super pastel

    P2S X P2P2

    1)P2P2 super pastel
    2)P2P2 super pastel
    3)P2S bumble bee
    4)P2S bumble bee

    so how come we will got killer bee ???
    what is the killer bee's gens???

    thank you very much to everybody ,please teach me in simple graph form !

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    Re: about killer Bee

    You did your computation wrong.

    Here are the possible outcomes:

    1/4 pastel
    1/4 bumblebee
    1/4 super pastel
    1/4 killerbee

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    Re: about killer Bee

    so can u show me your calculation ? what gens does killer carry ?

    thankyou very much

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    Re: about killer Bee

    Quote Originally Posted by pie888 View Post
    so can u show me your calculation ? what gens does killer carry ?

    thankyou very much
    It is a super pastel and a spider.
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    Re: about killer Bee

    Last edited by jmartreptiles; 08-12-2010 at 03:28 AM.
    "Real men have balls".
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    Re: about killer Bee

    this is MY way - some may agree, some not...

    bee x super pastel =

    ...... N.... P.... S... PS
    P..... P....PP...PS...PPS
    P..... P....PP...PS...PPS

    N = normal
    P = pastel
    S = spider
    PS = bee
    PP = super pastel
    PPS = killerbee
    Last edited by alan1; 08-12-2010 at 07:17 AM.

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    Re: about killer Bee

    a killer bee is a super pastel spider. However, you can't get super pastels from a super pastel, the super pastel parent only passes on ONE copy of the pastel gene, making all offspring fathered (or mothered) by it at least a pastel. In order to keep producing supers, the other parent must also have at least a single copy of the pastel gene. To be guaranteed to produce supers, you must breed two heterozygous (super) animals together.

    i think the rest of your question may have been answered in the rest of the post

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    Re: about killer Bee

    Quote Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    a killer bee is a super pastel spider. However, you can't get super pastels from a super pastel, the super pastel parent only passes on ONE copy of the pastel gene, making all offspring fathered (or mothered) by it at least a pastel. In order to keep producing supers, the other parent must also have at least a single copy of the pastel gene. To be guaranteed to produce supers, you must breed two heterozygous (super) animals together.

    i think the rest of your question may have been answered in the rest of the post
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    Re: about killer Bee

    Quote Originally Posted by cinderbird View Post
    a killer bee is a super pastel spider. However, you can't get super pastels from a super pastel, the super pastel parent only passes on ONE copy of the pastel gene, making all offspring fathered (or mothered) by it at least a pastel. In order to keep producing supers, the other parent must also have at least a single copy of the pastel gene. To be guaranteed to produce supers, you must breed two heterozygous (super) animals together.

    i think the rest of your question may have been answered in the rest of the post
    so you mean killer bee is come from bumble bee X pastel not super pastel X bumble bee?
    i m sorry i m a newbie of ball python and i dont know much about genetic !
    thankyou very much

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    Re: about killer Bee

    Quote Originally Posted by alan1 View Post
    this is MY way - some may agree, some not...

    bee x super pastel =

    ...... N.... P.... S... PS
    P..... P....PP...PS...PPS
    P..... P....PP...PS...PPS

    N = normal
    P = pastel
    S = spider
    PS = bee
    PP = super pastel
    PPS = killerbee
    hi ! Alan

    as bee come from pastel and spider ,why it still carrying the Normal (N) gen?

    pastel gen = P2N (co-dominant)
    Spider gen = SN (dominant)

    Pastel X Spider

    P2 N
    S P2S SN
    N P2N NN

    1)P2S (bumble bee)
    2) SN (spider)
    3)P2N (pastel)
    4) NN (normal)

    form the above ,it can show bumble bee do not contain (N) normal gens ,agree?

    thank you very much

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