Humans: Carnivore, Herbivore, or Omnivore?

[wolfy-hound]

Yes, but when have you ever seen a omnivore type person INSISTING that a vegan eat meat? Even when we believe that they are unhealthy by eating vegan, no one is trying to force them to eat meat. No picketing outside vegan stores with pictures of juicy burgers.

It's always seemed so one-way to me, that vegans feel it's fine to rant and rave at me about what I choose to eat, while they are never harassed about what they eat. And not talking about people in this thread, more about people in Real Life, outside the internets. Some vegans see nothing wrong with stopping at a stranger's table to fuss about the nice big steak or rack of lamb(had it happen multiple times, and friends have had the same thing happen to them).

[I<3Dreamsicles]

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[I<3Dreamsicles]

Yes, but when have you ever seen a omnivore type person INSISTING that a vegan eat meat? Even when we believe that they are unhealthy by eating vegan, no one is trying to force them to eat meat. No picketing outside vegan stores with pictures of juicy burgers.

It's always seemed so one-way to me, that vegans feel it's fine to rant and rave at me about what I choose to eat, while they are never harassed about what they eat. And not talking about people in this thread, more about people in Real Life, outside the internets. Some vegans see nothing wrong with stopping at a stranger's table to fuss about the nice big steak or rack of lamb(had it happen multiple times, and friends have had the same thing happen to them).

just gonna add some stuff that I thought was pretty common sense...

Besides all of that insisting... Why would you think that being a vegan, OR vegetarian would be unhealthy???

You know that all nutrients are passed down from the food chain right? We learned that stuff in like 6th grade. "Non meat" foods are packed with nutrients, and meat only gets them from being passed down, and every time its passed down the ammount is lessened.

Im not saying its OK to rant and rave about you eating meat, do what you want, but i would prefer to be a vegetarian because I dont think its right to needlessly slaughter animals so we can eat meat, when as said before, we can adapt to being vegetarians. Maybe Im weird, being an animal lover and all...

I still eat meat, unfortunatley, even though sometimes I cant stand it and think it is discusting, I have to because I cant make all of my own meals, and my parents always make meat, about 99% of the time, and theyre not going to buy me food to make vegetarian meals with.

And on a side note, they shouldnt be harassed for what they eat because they are not killing animals. Im pretty sure thats what most of it is about. Ever seen the slaughter house videos? Maybe you will see WHY they are against eating meat.....

[jsmorphs2]

Steak and avocados are my two favorite foods. Me = Omnivore. LOL. If I could raise my own cattle I would. But since I live in a suburb I can't really have cattle grazing in my front yard can I. So in all reality I get meat from a grocery story. I try to buy organic or free range products when possible but they're not always available.

[wolfy-hound]

I've been inside real slaughterhouses. Have you? I've killed a critter, butchered and eaten it.

Why is it that you say you're an animal lover as if I can't be one, just because I eat meat? How can you feed your pet other animals, if you don't want to support killing animals? It's okay, because the snake/dog/cat/critter is "designed" to eat meat? So are people.

I've said before, many vegans and vegetarians DON'T eat a healthy diet. Yes, it can be done, but you can't simply eat taters and carrots and think you'll do well. It's a very balanced deal to get all your nutrient from vegetables, rather than eating meat. Did you even read about certain nutrients that are only found in a few items, meat being one of them?

If a vegan is going to harass me over MY choices, why can't I harass them over THEIR choices? What about all the critters killed in the vegetable/grain fields? More vegetarian food crops being raised would mean more animals killed in those fields.. but that's okay, because it's not big like a cow.

[Quiet Tempest]

Considering the amount of crap in our diets nowadays, I'm inclined to say that humans are detrivores.

[WingedWolfPsion]

You know that all nutrients are passed down from the food chain right? We learned that stuff in like 6th grade. "Non meat" foods are packed with nutrients, and meat only gets them from being passed down, and every time its passed down the ammount is lessened.

Logic fail.

Nutrients are CONCENTRATED in animal foods...not 'lessened'. This is why carnivores have such short intestinal tracts. Meat is easy to break down and very high in nutrients. Entire cultures have thrived on diets consisting almost exclusively of animal matter.

Cow eats acres upon acres of grass. Nutrients in grass are used by and concentrated in the cow. We eat the cow, we get the nutrients from acres of grass. (Sort of--that's pretty simplified).
This works out particularly well for us, since we can't digest grass.

I also have no problem with slaughtering and processing an animal for meat. Doesn't bother me. In fact, I cannot look at a cow without thinking of a ribeye, lol. I love animals--all of them. I think they're beautiful, amazing, and endlessly fascinating. I also think that we're part of the food chain, and many arguments for vegetarianism are deeply flawed.

[Raptor]

Cow eats acres upon acres of grass. Nutrients in grass are used by and concentrated in the cow. We eat the cow, we get the nutrients from acres of grass. (Sort of--that's pretty simplified).
This works out particularly well for us, since we can't digest grass.

In order to maintain weight and stay healthy, a goat needs to eat a minimum of 20% of his or her body weight. I imagine it's the same for cattle. It is correct that we can't break down certain plant matter due to lacking the bacteria required to break it down (hence why you'll find pieces of corn in the toilet lol). This bacteria requires a certain PH level to survive. To acidic/alkaline and it'll die. Our intestines simple don't have the proper environment. Which is why this bacteria is only found in ruminant animals.