Thanks for the replys guys.I'm not rteally a pied fan (don't hit me) but I wouldn't mind a LA! my friend who grew up with a larger east coast BP breeder told me a price he could get a Dreamsicle for and I thought it was really low for a double recessive.He told me the guy would take very good care of him if he wanted some BP's.Still more than I could afford but considerably less than the $20K price tag.