Day 58

[Bruce Whitehead]

He was likely already so fragile that he was not going to make it.

I do not think your sac was bigger, it just was not absorbed. Everytime I have had a twisted cord that sac has been the dead give away. |

Want to thank Tim for the clarifications, and note that my guy that has survived already had his head out of the egg when I cut the cord. The one good thing about threads like this is the chance for further clarifications and learning.

Sorry you lost the hatchling, but this is part of breeding animals.

Does not make it easier, but it is the reality of it. But he did teach some valuable information.

Sincerely, bruce

[Animals As Leaders]

Thanks Bruce, your totally right. I was beating myself a lot for it. I then started thinking this is some of the territory that comes with breeding animals like you said. It sucks, but you learn from it. He was beautiful, he had a reduced pattern towards the lower half of his body. Like a black back look

When I removed him from the egg he was so small...I knew if he did make it he would need some special attention. Now in terms of the yolk sac, other then the size, what is the give away? I don't really get what your saying there. The egg he was in had a big dent in it as well. I don't know if that had something to do with it. Also, my other egg with the deformed baby had some water damage how does that effect the inside of the egg, and what happens exactly?

Now, are the others one ok looking? There is some brownish stuff in there with them which I'm assuming is blood. Theres also a film thing around them all. I noticed when I was removing the other guy from the egg there was like a thin wall of nastiness lol. I just don't wanna lose anymore...

[Animals As Leaders]

I started a newer current thread which can be found here

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...35#post1387935

[Bruce Whitehead]

For dead give away it is just the way the sac kind of floats up and off to the side like that, not sure why, perhaps it is the sac detaching from the egg in preparation of being absorbed, not really sure.

But it starts looking like it is filling the egg. Whereas the other ones are asborbing as this happens, so you never really see the sacs prominently.

And that film is mostly bacteria and blood. Your cuts were too big. That shell is there for a reason and little slits are best. Same with the film, once you do cut you should be misting with water daily to keep the yolk hydrated. I keep a small bottle of water in the incubator for that purpose.

As soon as you open the eggs you get bacterial growth, and if they sit in the egg for a long time then eventually they are just marinating in a bacterial soup. Sorry for the reference, but that is the best way to describe it.

I say this as a reformed cutter.

Bruce

[Animals As Leaders]

Well I don't want a bacterial soup Bruce lol

What do I do? Is this going to cause any problems?

I'm going to go mist it right now, is there anything else I should be doing/looking out for?

[Bruce Whitehead]

Just skim the muck off the top, and keep it moist.

Not much you can do at this point, they should be out soon enough. Just keep in mind that next time to not go so scissor happy. A V-shaped incision lets you sneak a peek and then as they start coming out you can start trimming back the shells on the remaining babes.

Its a learning curve...

[Animals As Leaders]

Alright.

There taking there sweet ol' time man! I cut them on wednesday at like 6:30! Today is going to be day 4 after I cut them. At what point should I become worried that they've been in there too long? And when should I expect them do you think? I always thought they hung out in the egg for like a day or two. They haven't even poked there heads out of the egg yet. There just bathing in that "bacteria soup" lol and loving every second of it.

[xdeus]

This is why it's a good idea not to cut until they start pipping. Personally, I feel too many people are impatient and cut too often. Mother nature is pretty good at getting them to come out when they're ready.

[Animals As Leaders]

This is why it's a good idea not to cut until they start pipping. Personally, I feel too many people are impatient and cut too often. Mother nature is pretty good at getting them to come out when they're ready.

Yeah I agree...Next time I'm waiting for pippage because waiting for them to come out is annoying!! Especially when you cut them, and now you get to see them in the egg, but not out of it lol. What a tease!

But is is possible to remove them from the egg manually? Tomorrow will be 5 days after me cutting them, seems kinda long to sit in an egg after its been cut no? Having trouble finding info on this...

[Python Dreams]

Do not manually remove the snakes... They will come out when they are ready. That date is not based on when you decided to cut the snakes, but what temperature they were incubated at. Relax.... They will crawl out when they are ready.