need bp care sheet/supply list

[dr del]

Hi,

Tape is fine in an enclosure unless your snake is retarded enough to eat it.

I beg to differ;

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There are heatmats designed to run at lower temps that claim they can be used without thermostats - they can, however, still malfunction and develop hotspots etc.

I'd rather there was some kind of control at that point that could shut them off before it affected the animal.


dr del

[sarahlovesmiike]

Man I really wish people would stop giving out bad advice. PLEASE listen to the more experienced members here. Don't even listen to me, I've only been in this hobby for a few years now. I spend a lot of time doing research on old threads. Do a forum search if you need advice or aren't sure of something. Chances are if you aren't sure someone else has already made a thread about it. Take everything you read with a grain of salt, listen to the members who have something like "BP veteran" under their name. Moderators know what they're talking about too, but if it says "Registered User" don't go ahead do what they say just because they are a member here. Certainly I wouldn't give you bad advice, if I don't know the right answer I will simply not reply or do a search and give you a link to a thread that has the right answer.


Please DON'T put tape or adhesive in the enclosure, it's an accident waiting to happen. Dr. Del was so nice to give many examples as to why you shouldn't. Your snake wouldn't eat it, but it WILL get stuck. Maybe not now, but it will happen sooner or later.

[Paysons Bps]

Please don't buy anything from LLLReptile, they have no morals apparently. A few of the members here have bought animals only to have them never eat and die shortly after getting them.

I agree with that..... Dude the best place to buy a happy healthy ball python is Garrick Demeyer! Garrick makes sure your snake is delivered and healthy. He has a very wide variety of morphs www.RoyalConstrictorDesigns.com is the way to go!

Good luck,
-Payson!

[Paysons Bps]

I would start out with somthing simple untel he/she is big enough, you dont want to buy a 10 gallon, 20 gallon, 30, gallon, 40 gallon. If he/she is going to be a display snake I would use plastic tubs until he/she is big enough to be put in a 40 gallon breeder, so you dont have to buy so many tanks.

Starters...
- 6-15qt tub (depending on size) that have locking clamps on each end.
- bedding you dont need to go buy expensive bedding, newspaper and paper towls are just awsome!
- Under tank heater for the hot spot. (Dont try to cover the whole bottom of the tank with the under tank heater just cover one end)
- Two hide spots on each end of tank one on hot spot,one on the cool side. (Two are optional you dont want your snake to have to chose to be warm over water or anything like that. You can make your hides to, any sort of small box mini flower pots. Anything to that sort.
- temp and hummidity gage.
- Water bowl (Big enough to soak optional)
- For feeding tongs (Optional)

If I forgot anything feel free to correct me. =D

If your having trouble buying online, I would try looking up Garrick demeyer. He has a very good variety of morphs of ball pythons. I dont know what your looking for as far as morphs go. LLLreptile isnt really "Bad" you just have to wonder how they keep all there baby ball pythons at 100 grams for so long?

I wish you the best of luck, when you get your ball python and your encloser PLEASE POST PICTURES! WE ALL WANT TO SEE!

-Payson!

[Animals As Leaders]

Listen up...This post is making my head hurt. I'm making this as easy as I can for you...

Shoebox bin- 6qt usually works best 1$
Thermostat- Zilla 50/Ranco 100(Had zilla for over a year (still do) and have had 0 problems. Just make sure you monitor temps daily...
Thermometer- 1 accurite thermometer with probe
Cypress mulch- Big bag from home depot cost me 4 dollars
Ramiken dish- water dish that can be bought just about anywhere
UTH heat pad- zoo med ones work fine 10-20
Small coconut hide- 6 bucks

Thats it dude. Don't over complicate this. Poke a bunch of holes in the tub 4 on the long 2 on the short side. Pour some cypress in, fill the water dish, and add the hide. Adhere uth to bottom, plug into thermostat, and plug thermostat into wall. Take thermometer probe and hot glue it to the INSIDE of the tub over the UTH. By doing this you monitor the exact temps the snake is sitting on works great. Tape tstat probe to the outside of the UTH on the bottom of the tub. So one probe is on the inside, and the other is on the outside. Not rocket science. Chances are if you think what your doing is too complicated, then it probably is. You don't need three thermometers thats rediculous! Humidity will be fine in the tub as long as you keep the cypress moist by misting a couple times a week if that. As long as your room stays at about 77-83 you should be fine. Only thing I monitor in my tubs are the hot spot. I know the temp in my room because there is a thermometer in my room, and I know that tubs keep humidity.

[Animals As Leaders]

Listen up...This post is making my head hurt. I'm making this as easy as I can for you...

Shoebox bin- 6qt usually works best 1$
Thermostat- Zilla 50/Ranco 100(Had zilla for over a year (still do) and have had 0 problems. Just make sure you monitor temps daily...
Thermometer- 1 accurite thermometer with probe
Cypress mulch- Big bag from home depot cost me 4 dollars
Ramiken dish- water dish that can be bought just about anywhere
UTH heat pad- zoo med ones work fine 10-20
Small coconut hide- 6 bucks

Thats it dude. Don't over complicate this. Poke a bunch of holes in the tub 4 on the long 2 on the short side. Pour some cypress in, fill the water dish, and add the hide. Adhere uth to bottom, plug into thermostat, and plug thermostat into wall. Take thermometer probe and hot glue it to the INSIDE of the tub over the UTH. By doing this you monitor the exact temps the snake is sitting on works great. Tape tstat probe to the outside of the UTH on the bottom of the tub. So one probe is on the inside, and the other is on the outside. Not rocket science. Chances are if you think what your doing is too complicated, then it probably is. You don't need three thermometers thats ridiculous! Humidity will be fine in the tub as long as you keep the cypress moist by misting a couple times a week if that. As long as your room stays at about 77-83 you should be fine. Only thing I monitor in my tubs are the hot spot. I know the temp in my room because there is a thermometer in my room, and I know that tubs keep humidity within 40-60% so I don't need a hygrometer telling me the humidity all the time. It might be a good idea at first, but if you KNOW how it works you really don't NEED it. The only other time you need to watch humidity is during shedding, but just mist the enclosure daily when this occurs and no problems will result. People like to get a little tech happy with there setups, and to me its just unnecessary.

[Animals As Leaders]

Man I really wish people would stop giving out bad advice. PLEASE listen to the more experienced members here. Don't even listen to me, I've only been in this hobby for a few years now. I spend a lot of time doing research on old threads. Do a forum search if you need advice or aren't sure of something. Chances are if you aren't sure someone else has already made a thread about it. Take everything you read with a grain of salt, listen to the members who have something like "BP veteran" under their name. Moderators know what they're talking about too, but if it says "Registered User" don't go ahead do what they say just because they are a member here. Certainly I wouldn't give you bad advice, if I don't know the right answer I will simply not reply or do a search and give you a link to a thread that has the right answer.


Please DON'T put tape or adhesive in the enclosure, it's an accident waiting to happen. Dr. Del was so nice to give many examples as to why you shouldn't. Your snake wouldn't eat it, but it WILL get stuck. Maybe not now, but it will happen sooner or later.

Alright, don't go saying all the "registered users" give out bad advice, your making everyone seem stupid, I like to think I know what I'm talking about, and I'm just a registered user. I'm not an expert but don't tell a new person that all "registered users" don't give good advice. I do agree though with taking everything with a grain of salt. Don't go by what one person says. Everyone does it a little different. Veterans are definitely great advice givers, but I can name a few that I wouldn't trust, or touch their advice with a ten foot pole. So be just as careful taking their advice...

Whenever I post something on here I take opinions that "make sense" to me, and form my own methods. I like to wait until I get a bunch of responses and kind of weed through the bad advice myself. Do your own research, otherwise you'll never know if you taking bad advice. Theres people on here going crazy with three thermometers, 5 hides, 4 water dishes, etc. This is nuts lol. My setups are very minimal, and I have nothing but great feeders, and not one health problem! By going these extra lengths your not doing anything but spending more money, and being way too over critical. Just be smart. Good luck, let me know if you got anymore ?'s

[hunter94]

Hi,



I beg to differ;

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There are heatmats designed to run at lower temps that claim they can be used without thermostats - they can, however, still malfunction and develop hotspots etc.

I'd rather there was some kind of control at that point that could shut them off before it affected the animal.


dr del

Oh hell no, duct tape? I wouldn't use anything close to that powerful I use low adhesive tape that wouldn't even stick to my hand for more then 5 min it would just come off on its own.

[dr del]

Hi,

It's important you mention details like that in the posts - anyone looking via the search feature in the future wouldn't know it as they might not read the whole thread, which is why we keep reposting certain things.


dr del

[sarahlovesmiike]

Alright, don't go saying all the "registered users" give out bad advice, your making everyone seem stupid, I like to think I know what I'm talking about, and I'm just a registered user. I'm not an expert but don't tell a new person that all "registered users" don't give good advice. I do agree though with taking everything with a grain of salt. Don't go by what one person says. Everyone does it a little different. Veterans are definitely great advice givers, but I can name a few that I wouldn't trust, or touch their advice with a ten foot pole. So be just as careful taking their advice...

Whenever I post something on here I take opinions that "make sense" to me, and form my own methods. I like to wait until I get a bunch of responses and kind of weed through the bad advice myself. Do your own research, otherwise you'll never know if you taking bad advice. Theres people on here going crazy with three thermometers, 5 hides, 4 water dishes, etc. This is nuts lol. My setups are very minimal, and I have nothing but great feeders, and not one health problem! By going these extra lengths your not doing anything but spending more money, and being way too over critical. Just be smart. Good luck, let me know if you got anymore ?'s

What I said was "if it says "Registered User" don't go ahead do what they say just because they are a member here", I didn't say "All the registered users here give out bad advice". Twist as you will, but clearly there are some registered users here who give out ridiculous advice, and people actually take it. Take everything you read with a grain of salt because not all of us do the research before posting a reply. I'm glad that you DO do the research, that makes you one of the better users here. I like to think I know what I'm talking about too, but it doesn't mean I'm always right. Hence doing research before giving advice that is not good.