And I thought I was Immature...

[Oxylepy]

Or perhaps there arent ~_~ Wikipedia says most if not all of these are deemed unconstitutional, which means that could have just been a scare tactic from the people who told me that. Anyway, if a cop stops you and you arent doing anything illegal I would always suggest cooperating, what would only take 3 minutes of your time could end up taking a few hours or more.

[hunter94]

I get stopped by the cops all the time when wandering around at 3am in the morning. And the Fourth Amendment has nothing to do with them stopping you to talk, it has to do with search and seizure. They are entirely within their rights to stop you to talk to you, especially if they think you're suspicious. Not responding to them could, likely, lead to a lot more trouble than it's worth.

From wikipedia:


Also there are laws against vagrancy and as such if a person cannot present information as to where they live/work then the cop could potentially take them into custody.

I know that I meant if your being held and not free to go for some thing thats not illegal for example, the cops stopped me cause I was "looking" in peoples backyards which is not a crime and I was seized and not free to go tell the cop said so which was illegal for the cops to do because they violated my 4th amendment right.

Plus if a cop stops you just to talk, you can walk away and they cant do anything about it.

[Oxylepy]

I'm pretty sure interviewing you isnt considered seizure. Seizure, as far as I know, involved taking your personal property/phone conversations/etc. Could be wrong, though. Oh but if you were underage at the time there is an entirely different subset of laws that apply to you.

[mommanessy247]

well you guys are right, it's not wrong for a cop to stop you & ask you questions but it is wrong for them to search your belongings without probable cause which is a "reason" for them to do so. they have to have a reason to search your belongings. either you looked suspicious or they smelled something on you or saw you with something you shouldn't have had. those are all probable cause.
my dad was a cop for 31 years so i know a little bit.
i mentioned the cops stopping me cuz it bothered me. cops have a way of making people nervous & if you even show the slightest hint of nervousness the cops chalk it up to probable cause...acting suspicious.
[sigh] stupid, i know, but my dad pulled that stunt on us all the time, sometimes forcing eye contact to see whether we could lie to him about whatever he was asking of us at the moment.
where are you going? who's gonna be there? will there be adults around? (if it was a party). if it was in fact a party that was in question he would insist on driving us there to physically meet & talk with the "adults" watching over the party. all that led us to not partying with our friends like the other teenagers were doing, leading us to being left out & not invited because everyone knew how our dad was.
[sigh again] dads.

[stratus_020202]

I have one too. I was driving home one day, 40 mph, on a busy street, and someone shot my front window with a paitball. Yeah, nasty ugly green color. They are lucky I was trying not to hit someone, and not be hit. I should have stopped my car right there and chased after them. Ohhhhh. What I would have said to their parents.

He's lucky it all came off too. I love my fire-engine red It's still scary. I could have been killed if I wasn't careful not to panic. It wasn't easy.

People really need to think about what they do and the reprocusion on others. I know they are kids, but I would have never done anything like that when I was a kid. If my parents would have found out, my butt would probably still be sore.

[hunter94]

I'm pretty sure interviewing you isnt considered seizure. Seizure, as far as I know, involved taking your personal property/phone conversations/etc. Could be wrong, though. Oh but if you were underage at the time there is an entirely different subset of laws that apply to you.

Well, I was walking down the street and a Cop pulled me over and stopped his car and flipped his lights on and called for back up then he got out and started talking to me then another Cop showed up and after the whole talking and stuff he said your "Free to go" which implied that I wasn't free to go before and he seized my person.

[stratus_020202]

he seized my person.

Geez, that has to suck. Lol.

[hunter94]

Geez, that has to suck. Lol.

Yes, Cops can seize some ones body lol. They hold the person tell they say your "Free to go" or just let them go.

[mommanessy247]

but then again i cant blame my dad for being over protective with everything he saw, heard & dealt with in his line of work being a cop & all.
it's not all about making little kids smile & escorting old ladies across streets to safety & finding lost children & bringing runaways back home to worried parents.
cops have to fear for their own lives every day due to the "cop haters" who gun them down while at the same time, making our towns & cities safer one criminal at a time.
& even then, after their job is done, it's up to the judicial system to make sure said criminals are not re-released back out on the streets. but...
what happens?
all too often, criminals get a mere slap on the wrist & a "shame on you" finger shake!
perfect example...
i was raped in the year 2000. typical show down...
cops escort me to hospital after i file a sexual assault charge with them. i go through the painful & humiliating physical examination while having to repeat my story over & over & over to different doctors, cops & the sexual assault response team counselor that shows up.
i see said counselor weekly while the cops find & arrest the suspect & get his side of the story. time goes on & i persistently ask the dectective on my case when the trial will be.
low & behold the counselor tells the detective that i'm not emotionally ready for the goings on of a trial. the detective & the D.A offer the rapist a plea bargain -
"you agree that you raped this person & we'll give you 3 years (which is actually 1 1/2 years for good behavior).
the cops did their job but the the judicial system failed me.
& its situations like that, that led to my dad being so overprotective.
end of my rant.

[mommanessy247]

sorry for pouring a whole pitcher of my soppy life stories on you guys lol. please forgive me.