If it's ok to...

[SK_Exotics]

If you don't like it than you don't have to breed them. The spider wobble bothers me a lot. I have decided not to work with spiders because of it. It's a tough choice, especially after seeing the lavender spider and a few other cool combos. I don't look down on or try to judge anyone that thinks differently though. It's up to each breeder to decide what he/she wants to work with. I don't think it is my place to try to tell others what to do.

This is how i feel. Good point.

Just because i brought up a legitimate question to provoke thought does not mean i have any type of agenda. You know? I do see a double standard however, if you subscribe to breeding spiders and see an issue with my first post.

[SK_Exotics]

I don't breed snakes for the money, so you can't use that argument on me. I will breed my spiders because I like the morph and the morph possibilities.

The first argument still applies to you however. If you enjoy the morph and all of its qualities, including the guaranteed wobble, then why have an issue with me breeding for the wobble quality if i enjoy it?

[Jay_Bunny]

The first argument still applies to you however. If you enjoy the morph and all of its qualities, including the guaranteed wobble, then why have an issue with me breeding for the wobble quality if i enjoy it?

Did I say I had an issue? While I personally would not do it, or purchase such an animal, I would not stop someone else from doing it, unless the resulting animals were obviously suffering (not eating, unable to move around without help)

[J.Vandegrift]

The first argument still applies to you however. If you enjoy the morph and all of its qualities, including the guaranteed wobble, then why have an issue with me breeding for the wobble quality if i enjoy it?

Sorry, I am not buying that you were actually considering trying to breed spiders for the maximum amount of wobble. The point of this thread is pretty clear. Especially after reading your followup posts. Also, you do seem to be judging people who breed spiders negatively in your replies.

[SK_Exotics]

And if anything, loopy spiders would help spread the word to people who are unaware of the spider wobble.

[jkobylka]

Honestly i would like to know if this is actually true or if it is something breeders say to keep business running. Has anyone tried to breed extreme wobble x extreme wobble and kept the babies forever to see if they develop a wobble? The statements about how you "just cant do it" seem fabricated and unjustified.

Thanks
Sam

What experience do you have to make you believe your that the statements are "fabricated and unjustified" ?

My experience says that the Spider wobble is completely random.

[SK_Exotics]

\Also, you do seem to be judging people who breed spiders negatively in your replies.

The only people who I would disagree with would be those who breed spiders and have an issue with breeding for wobble, and still i am not judging them silly.

[Jay_Bunny]

And if anything, loopy spiders would help spread the word to people who are unaware of the spider wobble.

Most people do not know about the spider wobble but creating a "super loopy spider" that is intended to scare people away from the morph isn't going to work. The fact is, the majority of spiders live normal lives. There is no reason to stop breeding them just because they are a little different. If you don't like them, don't breed them. It really is just that simple.

Of course, you may be on here just to pick fights because you are basically insulting anyone who works with this morph.

[SK_Exotics]

What experience do you have

My only experience is a natural critical thinking mindset, i guess.
As a first generation immigrant, we were always taught to question someone intent when they are taking your money, thats all.

Edit:
Woah, btw, I didnt notice who posted that. I am new to ball pythons but I saw your vids online and I really like your animals and tips dude!

[stratus_020202]

I have seen quite a few major wobbles being sold for next to nothing (Like around $100). Where is the market for them?