Infrared debate

[Tikall]

Depends on how cold the room will get I suppose, whether you need a CHE (gives off more heat) or a red bulb. I just need to use a red or black bulb, but your winters are probably far colder so maybe go with the CHE?

Black and red bulbs do not disturb my short tail, though. Also since the CHE will likely be too hot in the summer for you, you can clamp it onto something away from the enclosure. Then you can just slide the snake closer or further away from it depending on the room temperature. Like this summer my short tail will be far from the bulb or the bulb will be turned off. In the winter I have him scooted right up close to it. It's very simple to do if you have sliding space.

[MikeV]

Depends on how cold the room will get I suppose, whether you need a CHE (gives off more heat) or a red bulb. I just need to use a red or black bulb, but your winters are probably far colder so maybe go with the CHE?

Black and red bulbs do not disturb my short tail, though. Also since the CHE will likely be too hot in the summer for you, you can clamp it onto something away from the enclosure. Then you can just slide the snake closer or further away from it depending on the room temperature. Like this summer my short tail will be far from the bulb or the bulb will be turned off. In the winter I have him scooted right up close to it. It's very simple to do if you have sliding space.

Ah, I see

Yeah this bulb may have to go back then. Becuase I have a lot of room to move the tank but this red bulb doesnt seem to do much unless its right ontop of the tank

I may just go return it for a second time for a CHE and move the tank farther away.


They are gonna hate me, Ive returned it twice lol

[Ham]

Thanks for clearing that up man, those red bulbs always say infrared on them, atleast the ones I get, I knew infrared was supposed to be invisible, I know its used on night vision equipment and on laser designators in the military, I just wasnt sure if part of the infrared spectrum might be visible or not... Not claiming to be an expert on this particular subject...

[MikeV]

Thanks for clearing that up man, those red bulbs always say infrared on them, atleast the ones I get, I knew infrared was supposed to be invisible, I know its used on night vision equipment and on laser designators in the military, I just wasnt sure if part of the infrared spectrum might be visible or not... Not claiming to be an expert on this particular subject...

Yeah, they are infrared but we can see them I guess because we have a broader color range. so we see the transition from light to infrared, the snakes dont. so they just see no light I guess

Atleast thats how I interpreted it

[kitedemon]

all light bulbs emit infrared to some degree. IR = HEAT if it is hot there is IR. The red bulbs are just not as efficient they work just as well. It makes no difference.

[Hapa_Haole]

The UTH should be plugged into a thermostat, this is not an option, it's a must.
With a thermostat you will be able to set your "ground temp" to 90-92 and then add your secondary heat source for getting your ambient temperature correct.

I didn't read much of the thread...but you keep your blood'd enclosures at 90-92F? From what I've gathered (from many a breeder), a hot spot of 86F is enough with an ambient of 80-82F.

Dennis

[Pip]

Yeah, they are infrared but we can see them I guess because we have a broader color range. so we see the transition from light to infrared, the snakes dont. so they just see no light I guess

Atleast thats how I interpreted it

Actually, the IR range of the wave spectrum is NOT visible to the human eye. If the red lamps were truly 'Infrared,' they would be entirely invisible to the human eye, and only emit IR, which can be felt as heat.

The Ceramic Heat Emitters are emitting true IR, which if you pointed a video camera or night vision thing at might be visible, but is invisible to the naked eye. (I'm honestly not sure if the CHEs are emitting IR in the range of a video camera's detection, but it certainly isn't visible to the human eye...)

The red lamp "infrared" bulbs also emit true IR (Heat,) but they ALSO emit visible, Red light. (Plain old visible light)

[m00kfu]

So If I set it to turn off at 83, it is impossible for the probe to hit 80 and turn on again and repeat the cycle, because the room temp is above 80.

If your ambient temp is above 80, there's no need for a hot spot with bloods.

[MikeV]

If your ambient temp is above 80, there's no need for a hot spot with bloods.

Yeah, im not trying to achieve a hot spot

I was trying to get a ground temp throughout the enclosure of 78 - 82

Which is impossible if the thermostat doesnt get cold enough to turn the UTH on once it hits 82 or 83

Its an On/off thermostat and the probe doesnt hit 80 EVER. So it doesnt turn on the UTH. which then doesnt heat

its hard to explain lol

[m00kfu]

If it's not dropping below 80 then what's the problem?