Terry Cullen raided

[Kaorte]

Huh...? What are you talking about?

Has nothing to do with agreeing/disagreeing with me. I never even stated my thoughts on this topic. I'm talking about all the speculation on both sides of the argument.

This entire discussion in general is nothing but heresy and speculation on both sides at this point. Even though no one on either side has any proof about anything. Its getting old.

So what? If its getting old then don't read the thread. No one is holding a knife to your throat.

[anthonym]

So what? If its getting old then don't read the thread. No one is holding a knife to your throat.

So.. are you arguing that it would be more productive to just keep speculating back and forth on the matter?

You were also just asking for someone to provide proof and stop speculating just a few posts ago. I think we are on the same side..

[Kaorte]

So.. are you arguing that it would be more productive to just keep speculating back and forth on the matter?

You were also just asking for someone to provide proof and stop speculating just a few posts ago. I think we are on the same side..

It doesn't matter. I am not just going to stop talking about it because YOU want me to because "speculating" is annoying to YOU. I happen to like speculating.

As for what I was asking, I was asking Joe to provide me another source from where those pictures could have been procured since he seems to think it is so easy to just fake that kind of stuff.

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

I'm holding all of you in contempt! Bailiff! Take em away!

[anthonym]

Joe, your loyalty is admirable.

However, you have no more facts than anyone else. Instead of constantly fanning the flames, which only serves to keep this foremost in the minds of many, why not get some FACTS?

Those might be pictures from his place. The fact is, YOU don't know if they are or not. Maybe, instead of just yelling about how it MIGHT be fake, you do some fact finding?

Seriously Joe, I know you don't care, but you're looking like someone stuck in denial.

Give that some thought.

This quote from wilomn is pretty much the same thing I am saying.. so why are you guys getting defensive when I say that speculation is bad, and we need actual facts. But when someone else says it, its totally accepted.. I'm confused here..

[Kaorte]

This quote from wilomn is pretty much the same thing I am saying.. so why are you guys getting defensive when I say that speculation is bad, and we need actual facts. But when someone else says it, its totally accepted.. I'm confused here..

no, you said this topic should be locked and not discussed at all.

[anthonym]

no, you said this topic should be locked and not discussed at all.

I said I WISHED it would be locked and that people would stop speculating. Sorry for expressing my opinion about it. Why are you getting so defensive about it? Have I insulted you in some way? If I have I apologize Kaorte.

[Kaorte]

I said I WISHED it would be locked and that people would stop speculating. Sorry for expressing my opinion about it. Why are you getting so defensive about it? Have I insulted you in some way? If I have I apologize Kaorte.

Nah I am not insulted. I just don't see the point of wanting a thread locked because you don't like what is being discussed when you can simply not look at it. The content is not breaking the rules so why lock it or delete it? Another thread will just be made.

I like this thread. I like the updates and I like the conversation, whether it be speculation or fact.

[anthonym]

Nah I am not insulted. I just don't see the point of wanting a thread locked because you don't like what is being discussed when you can simply not look at it. The content is not breaking the rules so why lock it or delete it? Another thread will just be made.

I like this thread. I like the updates and I like the conversation, whether it be speculation or fact.

The point was more so that by speculating we are starting to spread mis-information and non factual data which is never a good thing. I think the guy is a piece of crap at this point. But that's besides the point. Inversely, if thats how you feel about my post, you could have just ignored it as well. But like me, you chose not to, and to voice your opinion as well.

I see nothing wrong with discussing the topic. It's very relevant to all of us. But speculation by its very definition as a transitive verb is not the same as discussion.

[Kaorte]

The point was more so that by speculating we are starting to spread mis-information and non factual data which is never a good thing. I think the guy is a piece of crap at this point. But that's besides the point. Inversely, if thats how you feel about my post, you could have just ignored it as well. But like me, you chose not to, and to voice your opinion as well.

I see nothing wrong with discussing the topic. It's very relevant to all of us. But speculation by its very definition as a transitive verb is not the same as discussion.

Touche