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    Re: The good 'ol blue eyed lucy complex

    a special is a special, and its quite possibly the worst name for a morph lol

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    Re: The good 'ol blue eyed lucy complex

    ah ok- yeah i agree with the name- its f***** confusing to me.


    so the special is a special- just like the pinstripe is a pinstripe- now i get it

    i always thoght it would be a product like the hidden gene from a platty breeding...


    are the specials for sale for us normal people, or are they so expensive and exclusiv that only breeders like brain from bhb and co. can buy them?
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    Re: The good 'ol blue eyed lucy complex

    i would like to see the gene working on the mystic potion or the red spectrum. the titanium is so awesome that the special mystic potion should be killer!!!


    are there plans to breed the crystal into pattern morphs? like a crystalbee or crystal spinner or so- that would be so cool!!!

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    Re: The good 'ol blue eyed lucy complex

    I've compiled pictures of the animals in question so figured I'd post for the folks who haven't seen some of them

    Special


    Super Special


    Crystal (Special x Mojave)


    Lesser Crystal (Special x Lesser)


    Mocha


    Latte (Super Mocha) pretty much a BEL


    Mystic


    Mystic Potion (Mojave x Mystic)


    Phantom


    Super Phantom


    and this is a strange one... Opal Diamond (het Russo x Phantom)
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    Re: The good 'ol blue eyed lucy complex

    So what are the defining characteristics of the special (the top snake)?

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    Re: The good 'ol blue eyed lucy complex

    Abigail, thanks, awesome set of pictures.

    Is the special\\lesser the one that BHB produced?

    Anyone know if anyone has crossed Tom Baker's special line with lesser just to be sure it's the same as what BHB had (not sure BHB's didn't come from Baker but thought maybe it was his own line)?

    The reason I'm asking is I saw a baby from a new line combo with mojave that looks like a crystal to me (but now that I see how light the hatchling mystic potion is that is back on the table in my mind). The catch is the breeder has already combined this new line with lesser and produced a white snake, not something crystal looking. Got me wondering if BHB's line might be something different than Baker's special.

    As far as identifying a special – I have to defer as I’ve hardly ever even seen pictures of them. The one in this thread does have a look though. I understand it to be subtle so I think they main way to identify one is to cross it with mojave and produce crystal, lol.

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