Ari Flagle caught on video abusing animals (graphic)

[wolfy-hound]

I don't understand why the easy question of what exactly sin expects Ari to defend is so hard?
Now it sounds more like a typical AR thing. Throw accusations, get attention, then when legitimate questions are asked.. disappear.
"Graphic" abusing animals... apparently equals roughly shaking a container with frogs in it to remove the frogs.

[sin]

I don't understand why the easy question of what exactly sin expects Ari to defend is so hard?
Now it sounds more like a typical AR thing. Throw accusations, get attention, then when legitimate questions are asked.. disappear.
"Graphic" abusing animals... apparently equals roughly shaking a container with frogs in it to remove the frogs.

I wanted to hear what he had to say. I don't understand what is so hard to understand about that. Like stated earlier, someone said he was going to make a post and I waited. Maybe if he would have said something I would have questions, till then there is just a video. It was in the news and I am living in Texas so I can be concerned. But like i say, why give Ari free publicity.If you'd like to support Ari, please feel free to get his book.I am done with it.

[wolfy-hound]

Well, I still don't understand why you feel he has to come answer to your accusations. You've called him names, and said he abused all thes animals and it's right on the video.. but when I asked specifically what he did on the video that you are insisting that he should answer for, you won't give anything.

You watched a highly edited Peta film made by a person that a eyewitness said put the boas outside himself, who got hired under false pretenses, who's first duty should have been caring for animals under his care, that instead spent time filming supposed issues, none of which seem to have made it onto the actual film.. except for roughly shaking a container of frogs.

[sin]

There's a right way and a wrong way to present rebuttals of accusations. Going off half cocked and screaming at the top of your lungs "It wasn't me! I didn't do it! I'm innocent! It's lies and slander!" on a public message board is not the proper way to do it.

Trust me, PETA spent months and probably millions of dollars setting everything up to make a video. Give Ari time to present his side of things when he's ready to do so.

If it was me they were slandering I'd not respond to anything for a few months at least. I'd wait until the emotional outbursts and anger had run their course and then I'd take apart the lies and slander. At my own pace, in my own time. But that's just me. Maybe you'd rush to the nearest mountain top to declare your innocence?

I would run to the nearest mountain. I love cats and if shady organization accused me of torturing, killing and abusing the animals that I invest time in, love and that I care for, they would hear from me and my lawyers. My reputations is at stake and I would do everything in my power to prove and discredit PETA for dragging my name and profession through the mud. That's just me.

[bsd13]

I would run to the nearest mountain. I love cats and if shady organization accused me of torturing, killing and abusing the animals that I invest time in, love and that I care for, they would hear from me and my lawyers. My reputations is at stake and I would do everything in my power to prove and discredit PETA for dragging my name and profession through the mud. That's just me.

If an organization that has built it's brand around animal advocacy was to accuse you of mistreating cats you'd be crazy to run up the mountain declaring your innocence without preparing. Perception is reality and the reality is what is seen in the videos to many people. You'd have to be able to counter each situation and put it into context in order to educate viewers. That takes time.

[wolfy-hound]

According to Peta you are abusing your cats by merely owning them. Better find that mountaintop. Or do you mean only if you are named personally? Because the laws that they push to get rid of your pets won't have to name you individually.

[sin]

According to Peta you are abusing your cats by merely owning them. Better find that mountaintop. Or do you mean only if you are named personally? Because the laws that they push to get rid of your pets won't have to name you individually.

Well, that is stupid considering most of their celebrity members have pets of their own. What hypocrites! A law like that would start a war. I love my cats, turtle and fish.

[bsd13]

Well, that is stupid considering most of their celebrity members have pets of their own. What hypocrites! A law like that would start a war. I love my cats, turtle and fish.

If you feel that way, why would you cite PETA as a source for anything?

[mainbutter]

What hypocrites!

You're just figuring this out?

[sin]

If you feel that way, why would you cite PETA as a source for anything?

I am not that familiar with the organization. I got my pets from a pet rescue and this is the first time I hear about anyone wanting to ban any pets. Here in Texas, the news posted the issue. PETA was the source but I never thought twice into looking at PETA. I was wondering why everyone was firing like crazy when I posted the PETA link (that's where the video was). Well, if loving my pets is wrong, I don't want to be right.