Help...Strange looking eggs! Pictures!

[Vilenica]

Then you have MUCH to learn grasshopper.

I have had roll outs about Every year and they ALL have hatched out.

And for a female to kick a egg out because theres no heart beat is just non sense. Theres no heart or any beat of anykind in the eggs on the day their laid. It happens to all or most females sooner or later and they WILL incubate just fine if Showing veins.

There has got to be some reasoning for eggs not being incubated. It sounds like you have a lot of info and should start logging it down. Do you think you that your girls planned on eating those eggs that she was not going to incubate. Or do you think she planned on just letting it go with ambient temp/ taking turns with It etc. Maybe population control? DO you have enough info to make a hypothesis? This is good stuff, this is what I was looking for. Are the snakes that hatched out of the stray eggs healthy? healthy as hatchlings, etc.? In regards to the heartbeat thing If a ballpython can sense temperature differentiations of 1/200th degree I think they can sense a fertile embryo after it leaves its body for more air. Let me know what you think.

[RichsBallPythons]

There has got to be some reasoning for eggs not being incubated. It sounds like you have a lot of info and should start logging it down. Do you think you that your girls planned on eating those eggs that she was not going to incubate. Or do you think she planned on just letting it go with ambient temp/ taking turns with It etc. Maybe population control? DO you have enough info to make a hypothesis? This is good stuff, this is what I was looking for. Are the snakes that hatched out of the stray eggs healthy? healthy as hatchlings, etc.? In regards to the heartbeat thing If a ballpython can sense temperature differentiations of 1/200th degree I think they can sense a fertile embryo after it leaves its body for more air. Let me know what you think.

Yes one of my roll out eggs that hatched in 2007 laid a 5 egg clutch this season.

And i do not maternal incubate my eggs at all. Once laid they are removed to the incubator as soon as the female has finished laying them.

And well ball pythons dont eat eggs so idk where you keep getting these weird assumptions from.

[Vilenica]

And well ball pythons dont eat eggs so idk where you keep getting these weird assumptions from.

What weird assumptions? If you were in the middle of a savannah in the ground/mound with nothing around for an acre and you just layed a clutch of infertile eggs and no rodent was in your burrow you would eat your eggs too. Granted this wouldnt happen in captivity, again Im speaking not in captivity.

[Vilenica]

Yes one of my roll out eggs that hatched in 2007 laid a 5 egg clutch this season.

And i do not maternal incubate my eggs at all.

Its starting to sound like your roll outs arent rejects. If you dont maternal incubate at all. How long after the lay are you splitting them up? Maybe she didnt have a chance to regroup? Ive had snakes lay in 30 minutes on the other hand Ive had snakes take 6 hours and regather a stray (fertile egg during the process)

[RichsBallPythons]

Its starting to sound like your roll outs arent rejects. If you dont maternal incubate at all. How long after the lay are you splitting them up? Maybe she didnt have a chance to regroup? Ive had snakes lay in 30 minutes on the other hand Ive had snakes take 6 hours and regather a stray (fertile egg during the process)

They are taken from the female once they are found. Usually the night after work or in the morning before work so it could be hours before i find them.

[Vilenica]

They are taken from the female once they are found. Usually the night after work or in the morning before work so it could be hours before i find them.

Gotcha so there is time with the mother cool. That is interesting ive never known of it, Im gonna have to start a thread on the subject because its a great topic.