Quote Originally Posted by RubbleUK View Post
Just my opinion but the generic term "Super" most commonly refers to a double similar gene co-dom only (e.g. Super Pastel not Spider or Pinstripe for example) so by implication, a Super Super would be a quad gene co-dom such as the Super Pewter (also produced by Mike Wilbanks in 2009 as well as Doug Matuszak in 2008 BTW). As for recessives, whilst I agree that a visual is a homozygous animal with similar genes from each parent, a Pied is not referred to as a Super het Pied is it just as a Pastel is not referred to as a het Super Pastel?

As for breeding Supers, I believe the common perception is that a Super x Normal = 100% visual morph offspring. This would therefore knock the recessive Super theory on the head too?

I suspect a lot of the more common Supers would produce varying shades of white snake (Super Lesser/Mojave/Butter/Russo/Fire combos etc) irrespective of what they are combined with but I'd be more interested to see a Super Pastel Super Enchi, Power Ball/Super Cinny/Black Pastel x something other than Super Pastel and Super Phantom/Mystic x anything!

Once again, this is just my opinion, this is a forum where views, opinions and experiences are shared and we're all entitled to have one before anyone starts bashing me!

Chris
No one is going to bash you..all your points are spot on.. I was simply try to illustrate the fact that in a breeding group any double homozygous carries the same potential.

My point was simply that a "Super" is merely an animal that's homozygous from looks different than its het form. Now to me not all Homo animals would be called supers Like with pins or the like. But not all homozygous Co-Dom animals are called super "what-ever". Take Red Axanthics for example.. Co-dom mutation that the Het is called a "Het Red Axanthic" and the Homo form is called a "Red Axanthic" Yellow Bellies are also commonly listed and sold as Het Ivorys, Het Russo's are a co-dom mutation that the Het from is named such, Het Super Stripe. I'm sure there's one or two more..

It's just a NAME nothing more. Simply a name.. When concidering breeders a Homozygous animal is a Homozygous animal whether recessive or Co-dom..