Sad discovery.

[RichsBallPythons]

Your temps could of sped up whtat ever was wrong with him. Too hot can cause stress which is a bad thing when you have a sick snake.

Rats,Corns,Kings i always keep 82-84F warm side max Cool sides can be 72-77 no problems.

[RichsBallPythons]

Joey - I'm really sorry about your loss! Have you contacted the breeder to see what sort of health guarantee they offer? Especially since you JUST got him?

I also wanted to note - you want to know the temp on TOP of the cypress, where your BP is actually laying, not what it is UNDER the substrate. Be sure to be measuring there, because it may be too cool on top if you're measuring below.

I have to respond on this.

This is how burns are created. Snakes will move the bedding away when moving around. And if the top is 90 but the bottom is over 100 due to the insulating substrate, we have a problem now. You need to know the bottom(hottest spot) your snake can get to. And if the top isnt the same temp then THIN out tbe bedding or change bedding's to achieve your temps.

[Seru1]

Your temps could of sped up whtat ever was wrong with him. Too hot can cause stress which is a bad thing when you have a sick snake.

Rats,Corns,Kings i always keep 82-84F warm side max Cool sides can be 72-77 no problems.

The coxi was on a seperate set up. The temps on the bottom of his substrate never went over 83. His temps were always in the range for that species.He did have a cool side of 68-72, which I read was fine for asian rats and which the breeder said was good.


His Hot spot was on the same thermostat as my BP's cool spot.


And her hot spot was hers alone not his.

Edit: I check the bottom of the cage and the top of the substrate with my temp gun 3 times a day usually.

[Skiploder]

You called PE as soon as you discovered the gaping mouth - correct? I mean he started showing signs of distress the evening you got him.............

Even with refrigerating the corpse, you are pushing the time window to get an accurate necropsy if you don't pull the trigger Monday.

Let us know how this is resolved..........

[Seru1]

You called PE as soon as you discovered the gaping mouth - correct? I mean he started showing signs of distress the evening you got him.............

Even with refrigerating the corpse, you are pushing the time window to get an accurate necropsy if you don't pull the trigger Monday.

Let us know how this is resolved..........

Yes I called them first thing the next morning to let them know. Which was thursday morning the morning after I got Him. I think I emailed them wednesday night about it but there office was closed.


I want to get a necropsy done but money is an issue here. So many unforseen things got thrown on my shoulder last month.


I'll make sure to keep everyone updated. I hope they give me a refund.

[4theSNAKElady]

I'm so sorry for your loss... Ting was a beautiful lil guy too!

[CA cowgirl]

I'm not sure I understand the relevance of this question? I've never had a necropsy done, but I've also never had an animal die that required one. I absolutely would get one though, if I had an unexpected death.

My reasons for asking are: what needs to be done to ensure an accurate necropsy? Skiploder shares some insight that the animal must be evaluated in a short window. Specifics I don't know. Thus asking my question to those that suggested it might've drawn the answer. No sense asking the questions if they haven't had a necropsy done to any of their critters.

You called PE as soon as you discovered the gaping mouth - correct? I mean he started showing signs of distress the evening you got him.............

Even with refrigerating the corpse, you are pushing the time window to get an accurate necropsy if you don't pull the trigger Monday.

Let us know how this is resolved..........

And Seru's answer here is also why I asked, to find out what the cost should be as cost can be prohibitive to some people. I hope this helps you understand the relevancy of my question.

Sorry to DP

Just talked to a local herp vet, $70 for the initial, $130 for each tissue sample sent away. Sadly thats not money I have, atleast for the tissue sent away. I just bought a new water heater and had to pay damages from the old one. as well as alot of money going to dig my parents out of financial trouble.

I noticed though that on his underside he had a long black line on his white belly that seem indented as did part of his body.

[Skiploder]

My reasons for asking are: what needs to be done to ensure an accurate necropsy? Skiploder shares some insight that the animal must be evaluated in a short window. Specifics I don't know. Thus asking my question to those that suggested it might've drawn the answer. No sense asking the questions if they haven't had a necropsy done to any of their critters.



And Seru's answer here is also why I asked, to find out what the cost should be as cost can be prohibitive to some people. I hope this helps you understand the relevancy of my question.

Three to four days max - even with refrigeration (no freezing).

I think Seru notified the seller within a reasonable amount of time - and the seller is, by all accounts, a reputable one. I am still interested in seeing how they make this right.

[Seru1]

I am a little jittery. But I wanna have faith. I think the guys at PE will do right by me. I don't expect my shipping back but I'd like a refund. Atleast something. I understand mistakes happen, in such a big operation your bound to accidentally send a sick snake.


Still this incident has made me a little crazy. I am super jittery over my abilities as a keeper. I just hope I am doing right by them. I'm really trying my best.

[DJ_Bizarre]

I'm really sorry for your loss, I hope you feel better soon.