Worst news ever :-(

[exiled reptile]

i'm very sorry for your friend and for you to keep the faith and tell your friend to keep on truckin get another snake later when she gets over the tragic loss

[Aes_Sidhe]

Big Gunns sees a problem. Let's see who else caught it. Looks to BG that at least one mistake was made.

Ok I'm Not an expert... not even vet tech but from My research I know that amikacin for humans should be dosed in 15 mg/kg/day dose if she give her 1.5 cc 25mg/ml that's give us 37mg on the single dose.... for one kilo!! and i don't think that that poor spider was that big...
In side effect of this drug You can read:

.....Other manifestations of neurotoxicity may include numbness, skin tingling, muscle twitching, and convulsions.....

.....Patients developing cochlear damage may not have symptoms during therapy to warn them of developing eighth-nerve toxicity, and total or partial irreversible bilateral deafness may occur after the drug has been discontinued. Aminoglycoside-induced ototoxicity is usually irreversible.

Aminoglycosides are potentially nephrotoxic. The risk of nephrotoxicity is greater in patients with impaired renal function and in those who receive high doses or prolonged therapy.

Neuromuscular blockade and respiratory paralysis have been reported following parenteral injection,

And That's are human warning....

Maybe I'm wrong... Hope I'm wrong... But for me looks like vet make a mistake....


I'm really sorry about Your friend lose I know the feeling... I know from autopsy...

[Jason Bowden]

Sorry to hear about this. Let us know if the cause of death is found out.

[jkobylka]

Ok I'm Not an expert... not even vet tech but from My research I know that amikacin for humans should be dosed in 15 mg/kg/day dose if she give her 1.5 cc 25mg/ml that's give us 37mg on the single dose.... for one kilo!! and i don't think that that poor spider was that big...
In side effect of this drug You can read:

.....Other manifestations of neurotoxicity may include numbness, skin tingling, muscle twitching, and convulsions.....

.....Patients developing cochlear damage may not have symptoms during therapy to warn them of developing eighth-nerve toxicity, and total or partial irreversible bilateral deafness may occur after the drug has been discontinued. Aminoglycoside-induced ototoxicity is usually irreversible.

Aminoglycosides are potentially nephrotoxic. The risk of nephrotoxicity is greater in patients with impaired renal function and in those who receive high doses or prolonged therapy.

Neuromuscular blockade and respiratory paralysis have been reported following parenteral injection,

And That's are human warning....

Maybe I'm wrong... Hope I'm wrong... But for me looks like vet make a mistake....


I'm really sorry about Your friend lose I know the feeling... I know from autopsy...

You are right. I've been going off the assumption that Ash meant to put .15cc, which is still more than most vets recommend.

Justin

[Ash]

Thank you guys so much for letting me know about the side effects of this medicine and the thing about the dangers of injecting into the lower portion of the body. If the drug was that strong and her kidneys were likely to filter it out, I wouldn't at all be surprised if it caused kidney failure, or something of the like. I think I was right about what I told you, my friend was reading straight off the bottle while I typed it out. I'm going to go back to the vet with this information and see if I can get her to refund the money. I'll post an update when things develop.

[Ash]

Correction: I misunderstood her, there were 1.5 ml in the whole bottle. The prescribed dose was 0.03 cc's once ever 72 hours for 2 weeks. Sorry! I knew that sounded a bit funky.

[jkobylka]

Correction: I misunderstood her, there were 1.5 ml in the whole bottle. The prescribed dose was 0.03 cc's once ever 72 hours for 2 weeks. Sorry! I knew that sounded a bit funky.

That sounds more like a correct dosage then. Still have the issue with giving the shot in the wrong location and the soaking. Talking to you a bit ago, sounds like you're going to take this up further with the vet. Let us know how it goes from here.

Justin

[DJ_Bizarre]

I'm really sorry about your friends BP, thats really sad, I hope she is ok...Is she thinking about getting another one?

[sweety314]

How upsetting! It's always hard to lose a pet, especially after the time and care to take it to the vet, and treat it. I've lost a couple even after the good, hard fight efforts of the vet and me.

I, like the others, hopes this hasn't turned her away from the hobby of keeping these wonderful animals!! When her heart has healed, it would be good for her to get another pet.

But, I'm a little concerned.......Ambient cool side was only 80*? Doesn't that strike others as a wee bit cool for a ball? Especially for an '09??? Borderline, I admit, but (especially with an RI) chances are good the snake got too cool, for too long as temps always normally fluctuate a bit over time. I'd personally prefer having it a bit warmer to start with, so if it should cool down, it's not too cold.
( But like I said...IMO )

Condolences to your friend!

[WingedWolfPsion]

The reptile vets I've had (all three of them) also recommend soaking for a snake with an RI, if it shows any signs of dehydration. Following their advice, I haven't lost a one. The snakes always appear to feel better afterward.

I also absorbed a passing comment that the positioning of an injection isn't actually as important as they used to think it was--in other words, injecting into the back half of the snake isn't seriously riskier than injecting into the front half.
I do not think the vet is to blame for this loss.