Providing heat?

[suzuki4life]

Not sure how your substrate temps can be so low... Where are your cages set up... Something is not adding up...

When I had my animals set up in the basement, I had to build a room in the basement so the ambient air in the room where the cages were never got lower than 80 degrees...

you answered your own question

your solution was to build an entire room....and heat the air which in turn heated surrounding matter (Ie: convection/conduction)

My solution is just using pin point heat and allowing conduction to take its place....

[Jhussey]

I took a look at my BP, Bearded dragon and Iguana set-ups they are all pretty close to the same with slight variations. I think with my current set up I'll actually achieve better temps than I though. Allergenic made me second guess some things and I'll agree with him to a point. The ambiant air is about 95-98 but the basking surface, according to the digi thermo my mom uses to cook with, was 109 for my BP and his set up is alittle different. I'll keep tweaking with the Monitor set up before I get him and hopefully it'll work out. Thanks everyone for all the help!

[suzuki4life]

I took a look at my BP, Bearded dragon and Iguana set-ups they are all pretty close to the same with slight variations. I think with my current set up I'll actually achieve better temps than I though. Allergenic made me second guess some things and I'll agree with him to a point. The ambiant air is about 95-98 but the basking surface, according to the digi thermo my mom uses to cook with, was 109 for my BP and his set up is alittle different. I'll keep tweaking with the Monitor set up before I get him and hopefully it'll work out. Thanks everyone for all the help!

your iguana needs much more humidity and temps than the other 2 so hopefully their set ups are not very similar...

[Jhussey]

I know it was just a general statement so I didn't have to type all day hehe, he's well taken care of, he'll be 7 years old next month, well alittle older, but I'll have had him 7 years next month.

[allergenic]

I took a look at my BP, Bearded dragon and Iguana set-ups they are all pretty close to the same with slight variations.....
The ambiant air is about 95-98 but the basking surface, according to the digi thermo my mom uses to cook with, was 109 for my BP and his set up is alittle different.

This is one of the major problems with the advice given by the pet industry. There is a misconception that all lizards can be kept in the same manner, at the same heats.

There is a guy on these boards named Dave/Crocdoc, who lives in Australia. He has commented on the forums that when he goes out in the bush to observe monitors, he notices that during the absolute hottest part of the day, monitors are active when not many other reptiles are. Bearded dragons are generally under cover.

So the idea that a bearded dragon, which will make use of a lower temp basking area and will even mouth gape at higher temps, is at all indicative of the temps a monitor needs to be kept at, is simply misinformation fed by the companies who want to sell 100W Zoo Med basking bulbs.

[Gregg Madden]

you answered your own question

your solution was to build an entire room....and heat the air which in turn heated surrounding matter (Ie: convection/conduction)

My solution is just using pin point heat and allowing conduction to take its place....

Yeah but they still need the cooler substrate temps to thermoregulate...

I feel many people get into monitors without knowing how to properly house them through no falt of their own... There is a ton of misinformation out there and too many people who think it is ok to house them in AGAs... LOL

Another solution to help raise substrate temps without using a heat mat is to get the cage off the floor...

[suzuki4life]

Yeah but they still need the cooler substrate temps to thermoregulate...

I feel many people get into monitors without knowing how to properly house them through no falt of their own... There is a ton of misinformation out there and too many people who think it is ok to house them in AGAs... LOL

Another solution to help raise substrate temps without using a heat mat is to get the cage off the floor...

that works as long as your ambient of the room is high enough to give desired needs....

a heat mat will give you whatever temp you set it at.

[allergenic]

Another solution to help raise substrate temps without using a heat mat is to get the cage off the floor...

Cinderblocks. Circle gets the square.