Breeding normals?

[Punkymom]

I mean, it may sound bad, but look at how many normals are on craigslist, and being rescued.

you never see a pied in need of rescuing.

I beg to differ. I know of a breeder who just rescued a pied.

[BPHERP]

It all comes down to what 'holds value' and to whats 'in demand'.

That may sound harsh, but its the truth.

It's like if someone (for some reason) wants to breed mutt dogs even though kennels are full of them. It would only make responsible sense that, if one was going to breed dogs, that the offspring would hold some demand in the market.

Another thing, you could probably buy a normal for less then it costs to breed one, or at least close to it.

BrandonsBalls

[Lolo76]

Here is the pied that is not my snake.
http://www.redtailboa.net/forums/mis...ht=rescue+pied
scroll down.

What a horrible story... thanks for making me cry. But I'm sure that's a rare occurrence, and most "rescues" are probably normals.

[PurplePython]

wow I am starting to notice a lot of stuff that I didn't want to notice. It's almost like a lot of people on here act as if normals are worthless. These are living creatures we are talking about. I don't care if its a $40 normal from a snake show or a $800 albino, I would love and take care of it as if it was priceless.

It's like a small percent of people forgot what its all truely about. It makes me sad just reading some of the stuff in this thread and some opinions. These are living animals. How would some of you guys like it no one wanted you just because you were a $40 "normal human" and everyone was crazy about that "$800 female albino human" or whatever? Its wrong , really is.

Original Poster, I can't beleive you would even suggest that people stop breeding normal to normal.... I don't even have words to describe how ridiculous that was to see.

To be honest, if it wernt for normals I am going to guess that about 75% of us wouldnt even be into ball pythons.

Give me any BP, normal or pastel or albino or spider, i dont give a hoot . As long as I make that bond with it, it dosnt matter. I wouldn't give up my BP for anything in the world. It's like a part of my family now.

[pavlovk1025]

To be honest, if it wernt for normals I am going to guess that about 75% of us wouldnt even be into ball pythons.

Im willing to disagree and say that if the albino set it all off, not the normal.

As for the subject overall...breeding ball pythons is a hobby. Its not like everyone is trying to create morphs. Some people just like the adventure of breeding (locking, palpating, ovulations) and dont want to pay the money for an expensive morph just so they can breed it. Not everyone is driven by money.

Breeding normals to reduce dependence on CH and imports, not gonna happen. Importation will continue. People will always be on the hunt for the next morph.

[Lolo76]

Give me any BP, normal or pastel or albino or spider, i dont give a hoot . As long as I make that bond with it, it dosnt matter. I wouldn't give up my BP for anything in the world. It's like a part of my family now.

I hope you didn't take my post the wrong way, since you did use my price & morph examples... as I said later in the post, ALL of my snakes are special and definitely part of the family. I thought about selling one or two recently, and quickly realized I couldn't part with any of my babies - normal or otherwise. So I agree with you 100%!

[PurplePython]

I hope you didn't take my post the wrong way, since you did use my price & morph examples... as I said later in the post, ALL of my snakes are special and definitely part of the family. I thought about selling one or two recently, and quickly realized I couldn't part with any of my babies - normal or otherwise. So I agree with you 100%!

oh no I wasnt picking you out. sorry if it seamed that way. I just sometimes get really bothered about how some people look at normals. Like the orginal poster said he wanted people to stop breeding "normals with normals" thats just ridiculous.... I don't see how a person could even think that would be a good idea.... Just stuns me to even see someone say that.

[PurplePython]

Im willing to disagree and say that if the albino set it all off, not the normal.

As for the subject overall...breeding ball pythons is a hobby. Its not like everyone is trying to create morphs. Some people just like the adventure of breeding (locking, palpating, ovulations) and dont want to pay the money for an expensive morph just so they can breed it. Not everyone is driven by money.

Breeding normals to reduce dependence on CH and imports, not gonna happen. Importation will continue. People will always be on the hunt for the next morph.

possible, but without the normal itself, would there be anything? and also you have to try to factor in all of those people who got their normals from some bigtime pet shot, and knew NOTHING about ball pythons at first, then began to learn a lot and then got big into the hobby itself.

I honestly would have to say more people began getting into BP's just from the normal itself, but you may be right. It just seams impossible for normals NOT to be the reason, ya know?

It's kinda like tarantulas. Most likely a majority of people who collect all different types of tarantulas started out with the rose-hair that you can find at any mainstream pet store, then eventually after doing researching nd learning more and more, they realized "hey theres a lot of others I would love to have, ect ect".

[pavlovk1025]

possible, but without the normal itself, would there be anything? and also you have to try to factor in all of those people who got their normals from some bigtime pet shot, and knew NOTHING about ball pythons at first, then began to learn a lot and then got big into the hobby itself.

I honestly would have to say more people began getting into BP's just from the normal itself, but you may be right. It just seams impossible for normals NOT to be the reason, ya know?

It's kinda like tarantulas. Most likely a majority of people who collect all different types of tarantulas started out with the rose-hair that you can find at any mainstream pet store, then eventually after doing researching nd learning more and more, they realized "hey theres a lot of others I would love to have, ect ect".

I thought you meant normals started it back in the day. No youre right, most people get a normal,google husbandry, find this site, find pics of morphs, etc etc. And then theyre addicted. Id have to agree with you on that for sure.

[Danounet]

I thought you meant normals started it back in the day. No youre right, most people get a normal,google husbandry, find this site, find pics of morphs, etc etc. And then theyre addicted. Id have to agree with you on that for sure.

That is what happened to me .