2008 Super Special...

[Oroborous]

Incredible!!!

[MAballs]

what a great looking animal... i want

[MTovar]

stunning!

[BPelizabeth]

perfect name for that.....it is super special!!

[OzarkMountainBalls]

Wow thats a good looking snake. What in the world is it???

[West Coast Jungle]

Wow Tom very cool looking!!!how do they mature??

Hey Tom, I was thiking the same thing. Its been 2 years, whats the badboy look like now?

[Bill Buchman]

I think Anthony McCain has him if memory serves me. Tom would LOVE to be able to take photos --no doubt. For me, it is a close call between the Super Special and Crystal.

I hope to make a Crystal or 2 along with a few other Special combos this year. So much yet to be done with the gene!!! Great animals Tom!!! Inspiring !!!

[RegiusCo]

Gorgeous animals Tom!

I hope to make a Crystal or 2 along with a few other Special combos this year. So much yet to be done with the gene!!!

Bill, when can we expect a Caramel Crystal?

[jjmitchell]

Wow absolutely incredible

[Bill Buchman]

Gorgeous animals Tom!

Bill, when can we expect a Caramel Crystal?

As you know Marc, getting a recessive mixed with a codom from scratch takes time -- and some luck with gender and odds. A combo I have in the works for sure.

The straightest line between point A and B will be my 4 09 Caramel Mojave girls that are at least 18-24 months away from breeding age/size. All are feeding well at the moment. I will almost certainly have a 2 or 3 gene Special combo by that time. Might try to make a Special Het Caramel next season to pair with the Caramel Mojaves in 2012???

Long-winded response to which the short answer is 2012 would be the earliest Caramel Crystal from me Marc.

Someone else might make it first. I need to follow suit of many more experienced breeders and keep projects on the down-low I suppose???