http://moreliaviridis.yuku.com/topic/13069?page=1
quick 20 second search of carnary turning green. problem is I read alot of info on these forums but can never find the thread after word, but there was a thread with a few people showing animals they claimed to be 8 9 10 years old and finally turning green. I would figured that to be an average and call 12 a safe number