Locks with some big girls...

[Mike Cavanaugh]

It's not like he's hybridizing a cobra and a giant constrictor like that dumb "monsterquest" show suggested. I don't understand how that second picture is adding so much more fuel to the 'ban' fire than....say...the first picture.

They are already trying to ban the BIG snakes. When the general media catches on that people are doing unnatural crosses between Balls, Burmese, and Bloods and other stuff, what do you think the obvious result will be?

IMHO that picture needs to be taken down. If not, expect to see it in some future news broadcast where the uneducated news guy shows why ball pythons need to be banned as well.

[twistedtails]

They are already trying to ban the BIG snakes. When the general media catches on that people are doing unnatural crosses between Balls, Burmese, and Bloods and other stuff, what do you think the obvious result will be?

IMHO that picture needs to be taken down. If not, expect to see it in some future news broadcast where the uneducated news guy shows why ball pythons need to be banned as well.

If the news is going to make something look bad they will do it with whatever they can. At least he is sharing his pics with fellow herpers. Just search hybrid pythons on google, actually I have done it for you, they are not that hard to find...http://www.google.com/search?q=Hybri...x=&startPage=1 These news people are not going to sit around trying to find his pics on our forum, they are not that crafty(or maybe they are). He has the right to share them. I'm stoked to see that is at the least semi-advanced enough to get thae to breed.

[docturgonzo]

Daft question...

But if you breed a Morph ball to a Blood would the morph transfer over? Im sure someones done it somewere.

Just before i get shot for asking im just curious i have no intentions of doing so and dont agree with hybrids but if people want to breed them then its their choice.

[Jerhart]

I like the first picture...

[scutechute]

Brian at BHB shows off his hybrids a few different times in his snakebytez videos. There's the carpet/chondro and he even shows off his blood ball. Is this detrimental to the herp community?

The entire purpose of the snakebytez videos, I believe he states, is to reach out to everyday people and show them what goes on with snake breeders and keepers. I don't think Brian would do something that causes harm to the herp community.

Please remember this when commenting and try to keep the conversation on topic.

OP - Love the pictures!

[DeadLegs]

I agree that the bloodballs are going to be awesome. I'm not even going to comment on the "debate" part of this because I don't feel that such a debate on THESE two particular breeds/species is even necessary. Except to say that it is all a matter of one person's opinion over another. You don't have to like it because it isn't your project, but no one has a right to bash anyone for doing something a little different unless it poses a clear and profound detriment to our hobby or the animals which I don't see here.

That being said, good luck on the clutches! Cant wait to see how it turns out!

[wuffielover]

Wow, okay, so I'm naive...but I confess, the last thread I read on here about hybrids was back in 2007, and it didn't seem that bad then

I realize that hybrids may not be everyone's cup of tea- I happen to think that superballs are very cool snakes, and as long as I deal with them responsibly, I have a right to produce them, just as you have a right to produce the snakes you like. As for the comment that I might as well "hand the people trying to ban this hobby a machine gun and an unlimited supply of ammo" I doubt I'm going to do that with one picture on a reptile forum, when many far bigger and more influential breeders have already produced these snakes and posted LOTS more pictures and even video of them long ago. Check here or watch the couple of Snakebytes episodes featuring hybrids, although I'm not going to go dig for them right now.

Anyway, thanks for the comments

[dr del]

Hi,

Out of sheer prurient curiosity........

Did you have to resort to any tricks like female ball python sheds etc to get the two of them to lock in the second pic?


dr del

[wuffielover]

Lol, I think he locked with her out of sheer desperation...like I said, he was my first snake, I've had him for 12 years or so, and he's a normal male so I've NEVER bred him (by the time I got some big girls, I had more exciting males for them). He would probably have locked with a rolled-up pair of socks at this point

[twistedtails]

He would probably have locked with a rolled-up pair of socks at this point

How do you know about locking up with a pair of socks?