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camera happy :D
as the title says 
Simon, Noah, and Eli (it's so hard to get them all at the same time!)


I love how their patterns are so different:

Their relatively temporary setup until I can get a rack or build one, which will be soon:

Dinner time :

Samson's new live-planted tank (20gal long about 1/3 full of dirt mix. he loooves to dig :]):

A closeup on his cork bark house:

I've caught his shed three times now and I finally had my camera on me:

My smooth green snake's cage next to my bed:

My exoterra setup, with two grey tree frogs, 3 bahama anoles, 1 american toad, 1 yellow spotted salamander, and 5 blue spotted salamanders (I'm a sucker for multi-species cages, and bought a taller tank so I could safely setup little microclimates):

One of the little gray tree frogs:

Well, that's it for now, but I'm sure I'll have lots more in the future
1.0 normal ball python, Simon
1.0 spider ball python, Noah
0.1 genetic blurry ball python, Eleanor
"You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed."
- the fox
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Re: camera happy :D
Really pretty setups. Love the snakes too.
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Everything is awesome man good job! I love multi-species cages also and its difficult to find good ones that can co-exist happily.
6.5.15 Animals
1.2 Pomeranian's
0.1.15 Tropical Fish
2.2 Snakes:
0.1 2009 100% Het Piebald
0.1 Normal
1.0 Green Tree Python
1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
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Re: camera happy :D
Thanks I love using live plants and such, it makes me feel better about wintering some wild species (the blue spotted salamanders and toad). Setting up really awesome tanks is one of my favorite parts about having animals.
It is a challenge to find compatible species, but it was definitely a good excuse for me to buy an awesome tank, hahaha
1.0 normal ball python, Simon
1.0 spider ball python, Noah
0.1 genetic blurry ball python, Eleanor
"You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed."
- the fox
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Nice photos.
However, I wouldn't recommend keeping anything in the same enclosure, just because the spread of disease and parasites is a high risk as well as a great amount of stress. Especially in that one enclosure with those many species of amphibians and the lizards.
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Re: camera happy :D
 Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany
Nice photos.
However, I wouldn't recommend keeping anything in the same enclosure, just because the spread of disease and parasites is a high risk as well as a great amount of stress. Especially in that one enclosure with those many species of amphibians and the lizards.
If I ever had a problem with stress or disease, I wouldn't continue to do it. However, when it's done right, they can coexist wonderfully. I make sure that all the species require very similar requirements before I put them together, and i make sure those needs are met. I wouldn't recommend that anyone do it, but I've had some sort of multi-species setup since my first viquarium (sp? the half water, half land tanks) at age 7, and feel confident in my ability to do it right I also wouldn't put too differently sized animals together, everything's young at the moment, so no one is too much bigger than anyone else, wouldn't want anyone to get eaten! :o
1.0 normal ball python, Simon
1.0 spider ball python, Noah
0.1 genetic blurry ball python, Eleanor
"You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed."
- the fox
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Re: camera happy :D
 Originally Posted by musicalKeyes
If I ever had a problem with stress or disease, I wouldn't continue to do it. However, when it's done right, they can coexist wonderfully. I make sure that all the species require very similar requirements before I put them together, and i make sure those needs are met. I wouldn't recommend that anyone do it, but I've had some sort of multi-species setup since my first viquarium (sp? the half water, half land tanks) at age 7, and feel confident in my ability to do it right  I also wouldn't put too differently sized animals together, everything's young at the moment, so no one is too much bigger than anyone else, wouldn't want anyone to get eaten! :o
Stress isn't that noticable, sometimes I can't really tell how stressed some of my reptiles are. But those who are very experienced can see it in a split second. But the thing is, you may have species that live in completely different parts of the country (or world, I don't really know any background information on these species) that aren't used to seeing the species that are in the enclosure with them (stress factor). There is also something called cross-disease (I don't exactly remember the word, but I think I'm pretty close to it) and a disease from one species can be passed to entirely different species and that one species can die. Also, with the Ball pythons, there is such thing as cannibalism and it has happened before with this species. I'm just trying to warn you of the stuff that can happen, so don't take this as offensive (which most people on this site do anyway).
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Re: camera happy :D
 Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany
Stress isn't that noticable, sometimes I can't really tell how stressed some of my reptiles are. But those who are very experienced can see it in a split second. But the thing is, you may have species that live in completely different parts of the country (or world, I don't really know any background information on these species) that aren't used to seeing the species that are in the enclosure with them (stress factor). There is also something called cross-disease (I don't exactly remember the word, but I think I'm pretty close to it) and a disease from one species can be passed to entirely different species and that one species can die. Also, with the Ball pythons, there is such thing as cannibalism and it has happened before with this species. I'm just trying to warn you of the stuff that can happen, so don't take this as offensive (which most people on this site do anyway).
No, gosh, I'm not offended at all, it's good that you care enough to share, and other points of view and opinions are nothing but beneficial All of the species in the tank come from the same habitat, except the anoles. All of them, except for, again, the anoles, can be found quite easily in my area (Chicago suburb) if you know where to look. It's been fourteen years since my first setup with several species, and I kept most of them for several years before that (I was a pretty responsible kid, and was lucky enough to have parents that supported me), so I'm pretty decent at detecting stress. As for cannibalism, everything stays extremely well fed to deter that, and I haven't yet had a problem
1.0 normal ball python, Simon
1.0 spider ball python, Noah
0.1 genetic blurry ball python, Eleanor
"You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed."
- the fox
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Re: camera happy :D
 Originally Posted by musicalKeyes
No, gosh, I'm not offended at all, it's good that you care enough to share, and other points of view and opinions are nothing but beneficial  All of the species in the tank come from the same habitat, except the anoles. All of them, except for, again, the anoles, can be found quite easily in my area (Chicago suburb) if you know where to look. It's been fourteen years since my first setup with several species, and I kept most of them for several years before that (I was a pretty responsible kid, and was lucky enough to have parents that supported me), so I'm pretty decent at detecting stress. As for cannibalism, everything stays extremely well fed to deter that, and I haven't yet had a problem 
Yeah, I was just sharing my concern. Once you get a rack, are the BPs going to be in separate tubs? And I have to say you do have one really nice looking Spider, I actually like that one better than mine haha How much did you get em for?
Here's some photos of Ball python cannibalism (viewer descretion is advised):
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7...royals1sw3.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/i/cannib...yals21zh3.jpg/
If you see, the Ball python that swallowed the other is not as long as the one it swallowed. So, anything can happen really, that is why none of my snakes or reptiles will ever be housed together unless for breeding purposes.
Here's a boa constrictor that had a Ball python for a meal (they were probably housed in the same enclosure):
http://www.boa-constrictors.com/Bild...gefressen2.jpg
http://www.boa-constrictors.com/Bild...sgewuergt1.jpg
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wow really cool viv's and great photo's...thanks for sharing
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