No one is getting agro, you just don't make much sense.

Your logic is flawed, someone "not into balls" of course woldn't know a fire from a lesser from a clown form a normal.

All of our collective points are that fires do not looklike normals, either as hatchlings or as adults. People can't tell the difference because they can be hard to photograph, like I said it helps to have seen them in person not just via kingsnake.

I'd love to see any picture of a normal that looks as good as these nice fires that are being posted, adult fires look as clearly different to normal royals as adult hypos do and even a novice/non ball keeper can tell the two are different even if they don't know (or care) why.