Cinny or not?

[twistedtails]

Am I missing something? I could be wrong, but, this girl does not look like a Cinny. She is listed on Kingsnake for $750. What do you guys think? Cinny or not? It very well could be the lighting in the pic though.

http://market.kingsnake.com/image/1031706.jpg
http://market.kingsnake.com/image/1031705.jpg

[Chocolate Muffin's]

Def doesn't look like one to me. Looks normal to me for sure, but I'm not expert.

[Sarin]

Looks normal to me too...

[rabernet]

The flames don't look right to me and the pattern isn't "just" how I'd expect it to look. Those pictures really aren't the greatest to judge by though.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=45652

Edit, after reviewing the guide and reading this part:

6. Pattern, all Cinnys share a VERY similar pattern. Where the "alien heads" would appear on a normal, Cinnys have one black dot or circle

I'd have to judge that NOT a cinnamon.

[twistedtails]

Thanks guys. I thought it was kinda fishy also.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Normal

[twistedtails]

It is sad the industry has people like this. Like I said I could be wrong, but, I'm almost positive that is a scam. When attending the show a couple weeks ago, I noticed somebody from my town who is know to run his mouth....He was selling a "male, het with markers". For what? He doesn't even know! He just felt like telling people it was a het I guess. Not to mention when asked if it had sperm plugs, he said he would have his friend pop it. I offered to pop it myself....It was a female!!<--------I guess I felt like ranting!

[withonor]

I saw that snake on Fauna the other day. A couple people responded saying it was just a normal, then a couple people fired back saying it was a great looking example of an adult cinnamon that browned out. It's sad that there are false advertisers out there, whether or not this one is really false. Easiest thing to do when you see something questionable is move on and find a better example.

[dturner100]

WOW. I actually bought this girl. Paid $750.

It's funny that not one expert that put this snake down bothered to ask for belly pictures, or better side pictures, or a close up of her head before they started bashing the quality of the snake.

Well, as I'm holding her in my hand right now I can tell you 100% that she is a cinnamon. She's got nearly the same color, and pattern as my BHB line cinny, but a little richer chocolate color.

Also what is sad is that in the ad it mentioned that she was in shed, but nobody asked if he had pics with her not in shed before jumping to conclusion of her quality.

Basically I find it sad that people who have a good knowledge of BP's but not a certain morph think they're experts in all aspects of BP's. If you don't know don't put down somebody's animals because you're not sure. Ask questions first. Then if it comes out more than "a little fishy" then accuse. Your "a little fishy" turned out to be a Kodak Photo Share camera ( poor quality camera ), mixed with her being in full shed.

So in closing I'd like to thank all of the people that missed out on this absolutely beautiful cinnamon that could actually be mistaken for a black pastel with her color richness, and clear belly so I could get her.

Also when she comes out of shed I'll post high quality pics of her from head to tail as well as her body.

[Sarin]

Looking forward to seeing better pictures of her.

Glad you're happy with her. That's what matters.