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Re: grrr..
 Originally Posted by Elise.m
That's pretty normal if they're stressed. My pastel used to do that, but doesn't anymore. Or if she does, I'm asleep so I don't see it. Maybe someone else can say if theirs still does it after settling into the tank.
I'd stick with trying to get two identical hides, and more foliage.
ok ill try that, but yea we've had him for 3 week a little more i think and he's still doing that
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Re: grrr..
I really don't have much to add. Most of what everyone else has suggested has been good and solid information, so I would just like to summarize - give my two cents.
-The "leaving live prey with the snake for ANY length of time" is a definite no-no, yes.
-Yes, think cramped, squishy, snug, any way you want to put it. Just stuff that enclosure and maybe pick up another coconut hide to match the other one. Newspaper, more fake foliage, a sterile log or two - all are good ideas.
-I've noticed that my own young one tends to crawl up the corners sometimes, but only when I've noticed that it's become too warm, and she's trying to escape the heat (which is occurring more and more often since the cold snap ended up here), but if your temperatures are correct, that only leaves stress due to other reasons. Maybe double-check for hot spots? BPs love to hide, and the hanging behavior seems to indicate too much heat. That's purely my opinion, however.
All-in-all, a stressed BP won't eat. So good luck, and I hope all the information we have given you will help. Cruise the whole site; you never know what helpful little tidbit you might find.
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Re: grrr..
 Originally Posted by Elise.m
Never leave a live feeder with a snake for several hours. If the snake doesn't eat in 10 mins, it's not going to eat. I'm surprised people are suggesting this. Did you try pre killing and leaving it in there for a night?
In my opinion the tank is the right size, you just need to get some fake plants (Or newspaper) in there for added security.
What? No really, what? i think we were all talking about pinkies fuzzies and hoppers none of which are real vicious, and i think most would agree there is no danger in leaving a small non biting rodent with a snake for a few hours, or even over night! i would venture to say it is not uncommon to leave adult feeders with snakes for a couple of hours or even longer. i myself have balls that only eat in the middle of the night, and won't take pk or ft rodents so i leave live feeders in over night, although i don't recomend it.
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Re: grrr..
Some of the most common reasons for them to climb like that are;
A) A new arrival testing the limits of its enclosure,
B) A hungry snake hunting for food,
C) A stressed snake trying to find a more protected spot.
Since yours isn't eating, it's probably C. I agree with the people who suggested crumpled newspaper, it works like a charm.
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Re: grrr..
 Originally Posted by BabysMomma
Some of the most common reasons for them to climb like that are;
A) A new arrival testing the limits of its enclosure,
B) A hungry snake hunting for food,
C) A stressed snake trying to find a more protected spot.
Since yours isn't eating, it's probably C. I agree with the people who suggested crumpled newspaper, it works like a charm.
ok about the crumbled newspaper, is it just like everyone is talking about how you just get some and put it at random places in the tank? does it matter where you put it? sorry with all the questions just want to make sure i do this right
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Re: grrr..
Those coconut hides look too tall. They like being able to touch the sides and top of the hide with their bodies. Try a hide that's lower to the ground.
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Re: grrr..
so any special way i should rumble the newspapers?
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Re: grrr..
No special way. Just crumple up a few sheets of newspaper and throw it in.
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Re: grrr..
 Originally Posted by gwood267
What? No really, what? i think we were all talking about pinkies fuzzies and hoppers none of which are real vicious, and i think most would agree there is no danger in leaving a small non biting rodent with a snake for a few hours, or even over night! i would venture to say it is not uncommon to leave adult feeders with snakes for a couple of hours or even longer. i myself have balls that only eat in the middle of the night, and won't take pk or ft rodents so i leave live feeders in over night, although i don't recomend it.
It's generally not a good idea for any new keeper to leave a feeder in a tank with a snake overnight. If you're more experienced, then that's something that you can call on your own. But for someone who has had a snake for 3 weeks and it hasn't eaten, is clearly stressed, leaving a feeder in there will only stress him more.
As for crumpling the newspaper, don't make it into tight balls, just loosely crumble it.
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Re: grrr..
What works best for me was to PRESCENT, then toss in a hopper and shut off the lights (do this late at night) and leave the room for a few hours. He needs to feel secure, warm, and alone.
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