What to start off with??

[bman123]

with my luck i will get a female bumble bee lol...

[WesleyTF]

well, if that's the case, I'd be happy to take her off your hands.

[Andrew24]

id say get a male bumbe bee.. and a female pastel.. that way your 1st breeding porject.. you have the chance for the killer bee, super pastel, bumble bees, spiders, pastels and normals.. but then again i say that cuzz thats what i plan to do lol.. but i also agree with what everybody else says.. its up to you...

[bman123]

good thinking man. I'm gonna get a female pastel when it warms up. I can put her in a single tub and slowly build my rack while she grows.
Whats next after pastel x bumble bee??

Breed bumble bee x super pastel

The out come of the bumblebee x pastel sounds really good...

[Dr_Gonz0]

Super pastels are the ultimate breeder tool.

Robin

[Andrew24]

good thinking man. I'm gonna get a female pastel when it warms up. I can put her in a single tub and slowly build my rack while she grows.
Whats next after pastel x bumble bee??

Breed bumble bee x super pastel

The out come of the bumblebee x pastel sounds really good...

well at that point you could go so many ways.. if it was me.. and if you get the killer bee.. which is a super pastel spider i would buy a lesser.. becuase then you could produce queen bees which is lesser pastel spider... and then you could be on your way to the killer queen .. wich is the super pastel lesser spider...

and those things are crazy!! when they hatch thier kinda purple ish.. lol... but that would take a while to get to that point .. but thats what im planning on doing.. thats one of the morphs i want.. really bad!!!! but they are way too much money to buy.. so im going to try to hatch one out in a few years.. .and thats if everything goes to plan.. which doesn't happen very often.. lol but ill get there

[MAballs]

get a female pastel and male spider.
if you get a male bee from that the next year you can breed the bee back to the pastel and get killerbees

agree, this way you always have a female pastel waiting for whatever you decide to throw in there in the future (you can never have too many female pastels) just make sure you get quality animals and not just the cheepest you can find.

[bman123]

female pastel's are cheap. Can you guys suggest some breeders please? There are so many out there that I haven't even scratched the surface yet.

I dont want to have alot of adults at one time, so I am trying to figure out what I need to buy. The female pastel and a male bee I will buy then go from there. I didnt realize how many options I had by starting with a pastel and a bee.

[DeadLegs]

get a female pastel and male spider.
if you get a male bee from that the next year you can breed the bee back to the pastel and get killerbees

In september I bought a female pastel from kellysballs from a july clutch and I have always intended to get a male spider from her as well for future bumble bees but until reading your reply I had never even THOUGHT of killer bees later on. I'm even more excited now, haha!

[bman123]

Now I'm thinking of doing this lol in this order
pastel x pastel
super pastel x spider

With super pastel x spider wouldn't I have a chance for killer bee and bumble bee??
If I am missing something please point it out.Also with super pastel x pastel what would the odds be of getting more super's?? I need to use a different genetic website lol, I have a little trouble with this.

I love the look of super pastel's. I am trying to do it without spending alot on each snake. I know this will take years to accomplish and thats fine. I'm not doing it for the cash, I have some good friends who are less fortunate then me. They love the snakes but dont have the cash or time to focus on the breeding.

I will give some away, trade some for other morphs and sell some for cheap. It's not about the $$$ at all as I know I am gonna lose alot but I will gain alot of knowledge and have a blast doing it.