I still dont get it ?

[sassy-pants]

Well i would like you to carry on please ...
But if i bred a Killer Clown = Super Pastel x clown what would they turn out as ?

Sure

Alright, if I'm not mistaken, a killer clown is a super pastel clown, yes? That would make it homozygous for two genes, clown (recessive) and pastel (co-dominant). One is recessive, one is co-dominant. There are a few ways you can get a visual killer clown, but you have to have a double homozygous snake.

First, you can breed two killer clowns together, but that would be expensive, boring, and just too easy

Second, you can breed a killer clown to a pastel clown, and achieve 50% killer clowns, 50% pastel clowns.

Third, you can breed two pastel clowns together and keep your fingers crossed. 25% killer clowns, 50% pastel clowns, 25% clowns.

Notice the first three options require you to have a homozygous clown that is at least het for pastel (or visual pastel, since it is co-dominant). Your next options are to work with snakes that are heterozygous for clown and pastel (which can be achieved through breeding a visual clown to a pastel ball python, I'll get to those in a minute).

Fourth, breed a pastel het clown with a super pastel het clown. Your odds here are the best of your het clown options. 12.5% will be killer clowns, 25% super pastels het for clown,12.5% pastel clowns, 12.5% pastel het clown, 12.5% super pastel, and 12.5% pastel. My brain is a bit fried ATM, but I know that your pastels that are het for clown would be considered possible hets because you can't tell who is carrying the recessive clown gene.

Fifth, breed a pastel het clown with a pastel het clown. These odds are hard to hit, but not impossible. 6.25% killer clown (1/16 odds), 12.5% pastel clowns, 6.25% clown, 12.5% super pastel het clown, 25% pastel het clown, 6.25% super pastel, 12.5% pastel, 6.25% het clown, and 6.25% normal. Again, your pastels/normals/super pastels will all be possible hets because it is impossible to tell which is carrying the recessive gene.

The way I am figuring these percentages is by using a punnett square. These are usually covered in basic biology, and without a diagram, I don't have much of a way to explain them. I could probably whip one up when I get home from work tonight, though, or you can check out Wikipedia or Google to learn more about them. That is where the heterozygous & homozygous stuff really comes into play.

I went over in my other post how to achieve 100% het recessive ball pythons in my last post, by breeding recessive x normal. The same is true if you're seeking a 100% het recessive that is also a co-dominant. Breed a recessive to a co-dominant (so albino x pastel) and you will have a clutch of half 100% albinos, and half 100% pastels het albino. For the pastel het clown, just substitute clown where I have albino.

If you breed two unlike homozygous morph snakes together, you will get snakes that are heterozygous for both traits. This is true of both recessive and co-dominant (or super, in this case) snakes. So, a super pastel x albino results in snakes that are 100% pastels het albino. Or, an albino x clown makes a clutch of snakes that are 100% double het for albino and clown. Or, a super mojave (Blue eyed lucy) x super pastel makes a clutch full of pastel mojaves, or pastaves.

I hope that makes sense... feel free to ask any more questions, I'm happy to clarify!