Culling mutated hatchlings:

[Vader6]

First it's PETA, not PITA. And I think there are very few people on here that agree with PETA's or HSUS's motives.

You never had to say it was the best option. That's not what people are getting upset about. The fact that you would recommend that or even 'put it out there' is illegal, and part of the reason why we are at the risk of losing our hobby altogether.

To be honest, I only understood about half of that post. So, if you were trying to say that you would never do that and you don't think that anyone else should do that then forgive me.

Didn't know ppl were going to get all uppity about it, I mean damn. OUR hobby has nothing to do with BP's or them entering or not entering the wild. And I feel if the snake is gonna die and u wanna let it outside and roam for a day and then it die and be eaten by something. DO IT. Now if you wanna just release it cuz it's not eating, u don't like it, or anything that is not gonna have it die VERY soon then yea don't do it. THAT is my pt. Idc if ppl agree with it or not, or if it's illegal or not. That is the only circumstance I think it is right to do it. Cuz i personally think the snake would be happier exploring. Your responsibility as a handler is to make your snakes happy and I think if it's gonna die soon then that is what will make it happy. So keep neg repping me cuz that's what I think.

[bad-one]

Didn't know ppl were going to get all uppity about it, I mean damn. OUR hobby has nothing to do with BP's or them entering or not entering the wild. And I feel if the snake is gonna die and u wanna let it outside and roam for a day and then it die and be eaten by something. DO IT. Now if you wanna just release it cuz it's not eating, u don't like it, or anything that is not gonna have it die VERY soon then yea don't do it. THAT is my pt. Idc if ppl agree with it or not, or if it's illegal or not. That is the only circumstance I think it is right to do it. Cuz i personally think the snake would be happier exploring. Your responsibility as a handler is to make your snakes happy and I think if it's gonna die soon then that is what will make it happy. So keep neg repping me cuz that's what I think.

That's just the problem, it is never acceptable to release any animal...

[Failshed]

Didn't know ppl were going to get all uppity about it, I mean damn. OUR hobby has nothing to do with BP's or them entering or not entering the wild. And I feel if the snake is gonna die and u wanna let it outside and roam for a day and then it die and be eaten by something. DO IT. Now if you wanna just release it cuz it's not eating, u don't like it, or anything that is not gonna have it die VERY soon then yea don't do it. THAT is my pt. Idc if ppl agree with it or not, or if it's illegal or not. That is the only circumstance I think it is right to do it. Cuz i personally think the snake would be happier exploring. Your responsibility as a handler is to make your snakes happy and I think if it's gonna die soon then that is what will make it happy. So keep neg repping me cuz that's what I think.

Please Vader6 don't get to that point of exiling yourself from the knowledge that is available on this site. But the thought of releasing the animal into the wild should be understood as illegal. That is why you see all the adds to stop the reptile ban. Because people thought the same way, and now we have an epic problem here in Florida with Burmese pythons. That mind state of Burmese python problem doesn't transfer well with the uneducated public. They associate all non-native snakes as problems.

Not at all an attack on you, I just want you to think about the hot water we are in as hobbyists of ball pythons, because of irresponsible owners doing what you suggested.

[joepythons]

Didn't know ppl were going to get all uppity about it, I mean damn. OUR hobby has nothing to do with BP's or them entering or not entering the wild. And I feel if the snake is gonna die and u wanna let it outside and roam for a day and then it die and be eaten by something. DO IT. Now if you wanna just release it cuz it's not eating, u don't like it, or anything that is not gonna have it die VERY soon then yea don't do it. THAT is my pt. Idc if ppl agree with it or not, or if it's illegal or not. That is the only circumstance I think it is right to do it. Cuz i personally think the snake would be happier exploring. Your responsibility as a handler is to make your snakes happy and I think if it's gonna die soon then that is what will make it happy. So keep neg repping me cuz that's what I think.

Why dont you just stop showing your ignorance .You can not be in this hobby and love reptiles like we do and say over and over they would be better off dieing by being eaten by something.I think you are working for the idiots that are trying to cease our hobby and ask everyone to stop responding to your stupid comments.

[kjinxx2]

Hey guys, I really don't mean to be rude, I know we are all very passionate about this hobby - however I'd like to stick to the topic at hand without too much argument. If you could maybe finish your discussion in another topic or through private messages

Joepythons do you have any advice for culling a hatchling?

[Vader6]

Hey guys, I really don't mean to be rude, I know we are all very passionate about this hobby - however I'd like to stick to the topic at hand without too much argument. If you could maybe finish your discussion in another topic or through private messages

Joepythons do you have any advice for culling a hatchling?

Already said that 2 pages back.............

[joepythons]

Hey guys, I really don't mean to be rude, I know we are all very passionate about this hobby - however I'd like to stick to the topic at hand without too much argument. If you could maybe finish your discussion in another topic or through private messages

Joepythons do you have any advice for culling a hatchling?

Yes take it to a vet and have it done

[Jay_Bunny]

I also vote on taking it to the vet to have it euthanized, but I am still researching on how to humanely cull a hatchling. I froze the one that didn't make it from last season, but he was so near death, it was more humane to put him in the freezer right then than take the time to set up an appointment at the vet and drive over there to have it done. He was just too far gone. Its good thought that you are researching this BEFORE breeding. I didn't and wasn't prepared for having to cull that little hatchling. A lot of people think breeding is "Oh look at the pretty albino that just hatched out!" but there are the dark moments when you realize you have to end a life for the good of the animal. Its sad but its part of breeding. Any hatchlings this season that need to be euthanized are going to the vet.

[thegoalie22]

A mod needs to put this in the quarantine room ASAP

[WingedWolfPsion]

I had to cull one hatchling last season--she was born with one eye, blind in the other, and with a deformed jaw and minor ataxia. She was unable to feed on her own. All she had to look forward to was a life of assist-feeding at best, which didn't seem like any life at all for a snake. It was extremely sad, as we tried all we could to get her started in the hopes she could go to a pet home. It just wasn't to be. These things happen whenever you work with breeding animals. There will always be a few that just aren't going to make it.

This is definitely something for people to keep in mind before they breed their animals--that day is going to come, and you have to be prepared for it.