Culling mutated hatchlings:

[Jay_Bunny]

Why do people always seem to think that the most humane thing for an animal is just to release it into the wild. I'm sorry, that snake is not going to enjoy its time out in the wild while it dies. Its going to either lay there and die of exposure or get eaten by a predator. Not only that, its illegal.

[joepythons]

Why do people always seem to think that the most humane thing for an animal is just to release it into the wild. I'm sorry, that snake is not going to enjoy its time out in the wild while it dies. Its going to either lay there and die of exposure or get eaten by a predator. Not only that, its illegal.

I thought he was a kid who does not know any better but he is 20 .

[Vader6]

NEWSFLASH its illegal to release ANY non native animal! So if your sick and going to die should i release you into the ocean? I mean if your going to just die why not die swimming .

Human > Snake.....if you don't see the value of a human life over a BP bred to be a pet/hobby animals then your just, well I'm gonna be nice and just say join PITA

We are here to promote RESPONSIBLE pet ownership not to promote the illegal release of an non native animal in the wild. (Obviously you have a lot to learn)

And some people wonder why politicians are trying to ban snakes

Secondly as far as this forum goes here is a little reminder

My bad, I never said it was the best option just putting it out there. Never once said I would just informing ppl that even if it is it's not gonna become a invasive species for ppl who think that. But I do agree that it will look bad on the community if it is found, no doubt.

Why do people always seem to think that the most humane thing for an animal is just to release it into the wild. I'm sorry, that snake is not going to enjoy its time out in the wild while it dies. Its going to either lay there and die of exposure or get eaten by a predator. Not only that, its illegal.

Never said it was the most of least humane way to do that. And if your actually think YOU know what the SNAKE is gonna enjoy on it's last days of living your completely wrong. Humans as well as animals have a completely different mind set when death is in the near future. For instance some dogs go into the middle of no where to die alone. Humans want to the the most stupidest things known to man before they pass.....how do YOU know what it wants.

I thought he was a kid who does not know any better but he is 20 .

Point being what? I expressed a point that I didn't completely explain all the way through, and that was a my b. But TRUST me I am by FAR better in the know about anything in this sort of field I can promise you that. Now for snakes in general you got me pwned, and probs you to you for that. But BEFORE you start making actuation about someone knowing better be sure you dealing with a compete and utter moron before you do. B/c ppl like me who are actually in the know of these kinds of things. I was referring to ONE instance not IF this and IF that or IF this person also did it. I talking this guy this time IF the animals were to DIE very soon.
I do agree like I have stated, not to do it. So I will retract my statement on page 1 and leave it as it is.

FYI guys chillax a bit, it's a forum for goodness sakes......

Pleasure to have this conversation and sorry for the miscommunication on the topic. Back on topic this thread should go.

[blackcrystal22]

Human > Snake.....if you don't see the value of a human life over a BP bred to be a pet/hobby animals then your just, well I'm gonna be nice and just say join PITA



My bad, I never said it was the best option just putting it out there. Never once said I would just informing ppl that even if it is it's not gonna become a invasive species for ppl who think that. But I do agree that it will look bad on the community if it is found, no doubt.



Never said it was the most of least humane way to do that. And if your actually think YOU know what the SNAKE is gonna enjoy on it's last days of living your completely wrong. Humans as well as animals have a completely different mind set when death is in the near future. For instance some dogs go into the middle of no where to die alone. Humans want to the the most stupidest things known to man before they pass.....how do YOU know what it wants.



Point being what? I expressed a point that I didn't completely explain all the way through, and that was a my b. But TRUST me I am by FAR better in the know about anything in this sort of field I can promise you that. Now for snakes in general you got me pwned, and probs you to you for that. But BEFORE you start making actuation about someone knowing better be sure you dealing with a compete and utter moron before you do. B/c ppl like me who are actually in the know of these kinds of things. I was referring to ONE instance not IF this and IF that or IF this person also did it. I talking this guy this time IF the animals were to DIE very soon.
I do agree like I have stated, not to do it. So I will retract my statement on page 1 and leave it as it is.

FYI guys chillax a bit, it's a forum for goodness sakes......

Pleasure to have this conversation and sorry for the miscommunication on the topic. Back on topic this thread should go.

First it's PETA, not PITA. And I think there are very few people on here that agree with PETA's or HSUS's motives.

You never had to say it was the best option. That's not what people are getting upset about. The fact that you would recommend that or even 'put it out there' is illegal, and part of the reason why we are at the risk of losing our hobby altogether.

To be honest, I only understood about half of that post. So, if you were trying to say that you would never do that and you don't think that anyone else should do that then forgive me.

[Vader6]

First it's PETA, not PITA. And I think there are very few people on here that agree with PETA's or HSUS's motives.

You never had to say it was the best option. That's not what people are getting upset about. The fact that you would recommend that or even 'put it out there' is illegal, and part of the reason why we are at the risk of losing our hobby altogether.

To be honest, I only understood about half of that post. So, if you were trying to say that you would never do that and you don't think that anyone else should do that then forgive me.

Didn't know ppl were going to get all uppity about it, I mean damn. OUR hobby has nothing to do with BP's or them entering or not entering the wild. And I feel if the snake is gonna die and u wanna let it outside and roam for a day and then it die and be eaten by something. DO IT. Now if you wanna just release it cuz it's not eating, u don't like it, or anything that is not gonna have it die VERY soon then yea don't do it. THAT is my pt. Idc if ppl agree with it or not, or if it's illegal or not. That is the only circumstance I think it is right to do it. Cuz i personally think the snake would be happier exploring. Your responsibility as a handler is to make your snakes happy and I think if it's gonna die soon then that is what will make it happy. So keep neg repping me cuz that's what I think.

[bad-one]

Didn't know ppl were going to get all uppity about it, I mean damn. OUR hobby has nothing to do with BP's or them entering or not entering the wild. And I feel if the snake is gonna die and u wanna let it outside and roam for a day and then it die and be eaten by something. DO IT. Now if you wanna just release it cuz it's not eating, u don't like it, or anything that is not gonna have it die VERY soon then yea don't do it. THAT is my pt. Idc if ppl agree with it or not, or if it's illegal or not. That is the only circumstance I think it is right to do it. Cuz i personally think the snake would be happier exploring. Your responsibility as a handler is to make your snakes happy and I think if it's gonna die soon then that is what will make it happy. So keep neg repping me cuz that's what I think.

That's just the problem, it is never acceptable to release any animal...

[Failshed]

Didn't know ppl were going to get all uppity about it, I mean damn. OUR hobby has nothing to do with BP's or them entering or not entering the wild. And I feel if the snake is gonna die and u wanna let it outside and roam for a day and then it die and be eaten by something. DO IT. Now if you wanna just release it cuz it's not eating, u don't like it, or anything that is not gonna have it die VERY soon then yea don't do it. THAT is my pt. Idc if ppl agree with it or not, or if it's illegal or not. That is the only circumstance I think it is right to do it. Cuz i personally think the snake would be happier exploring. Your responsibility as a handler is to make your snakes happy and I think if it's gonna die soon then that is what will make it happy. So keep neg repping me cuz that's what I think.

Please Vader6 don't get to that point of exiling yourself from the knowledge that is available on this site. But the thought of releasing the animal into the wild should be understood as illegal. That is why you see all the adds to stop the reptile ban. Because people thought the same way, and now we have an epic problem here in Florida with Burmese pythons. That mind state of Burmese python problem doesn't transfer well with the uneducated public. They associate all non-native snakes as problems.

Not at all an attack on you, I just want you to think about the hot water we are in as hobbyists of ball pythons, because of irresponsible owners doing what you suggested.

[joepythons]

Didn't know ppl were going to get all uppity about it, I mean damn. OUR hobby has nothing to do with BP's or them entering or not entering the wild. And I feel if the snake is gonna die and u wanna let it outside and roam for a day and then it die and be eaten by something. DO IT. Now if you wanna just release it cuz it's not eating, u don't like it, or anything that is not gonna have it die VERY soon then yea don't do it. THAT is my pt. Idc if ppl agree with it or not, or if it's illegal or not. That is the only circumstance I think it is right to do it. Cuz i personally think the snake would be happier exploring. Your responsibility as a handler is to make your snakes happy and I think if it's gonna die soon then that is what will make it happy. So keep neg repping me cuz that's what I think.

Why dont you just stop showing your ignorance .You can not be in this hobby and love reptiles like we do and say over and over they would be better off dieing by being eaten by something.I think you are working for the idiots that are trying to cease our hobby and ask everyone to stop responding to your stupid comments.

[kjinxx2]

Hey guys, I really don't mean to be rude, I know we are all very passionate about this hobby - however I'd like to stick to the topic at hand without too much argument. If you could maybe finish your discussion in another topic or through private messages

Joepythons do you have any advice for culling a hatchling?

[Vader6]

Why dont you just stop showing your ignorance .You can not be in this hobby and love reptiles like we do and say over and over they would be better off dieing by being eaten by something.I think you are working for the idiots that are trying to cease our hobby and ask everyone to stop responding to your stupid comments.

But yet you keep responding............take own advice instead of trying to win petty arguments. You'll get further in life. I know you don't see YOUR own ignorance in this whole topic but ppl as closed mind as yourself seldom do. Yet again another life lesson for you.
And I'm done with this thread and if this exiles me from the forum well ya'll are just a bunch of 2 yr old who need to get over petty stuff and do what you joined a forum like this to do........help, give advice, show some cool stuff or ask some questions.