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    Re: Black Pastel and Mohave breeding

    I have been trying to picture how sweet a black pastave would look.... Dont know if that's the official name but that's what I have been referring to them as. Cant wait to see em

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    Re: Black Pastel and Mohave breeding

    Eh I kinda think Black Pastave would suggest a Black Pastel Pastave.

    Black Mojave would seem to fit better.

    Its so annoying that we call them Black Pastels when they really should have been named something else, as the arent in the Pastel complex, they dont produce a super that is anything like a super pastel, etc.

    Like we could call them Het Melanistics And the supers should be called Melanistics. Melanism being the opposite of Leucism, causing excesive melanin production (true this isnt the exact opposite, more like the opposite of Albanism since Leucism is a loss in all pigments).
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    Re: Black Pastel and Mohave breeding

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    (true this isnt the exact opposite, more like the opposite of Albanism since Leucism is a loss in all pigments).
    Just a clarification of your last statement. This is based on the beliefs of what is occuring in "Leucistic" ball pythons, as no chemical reasearch has ever been done, but based on how leucism works in other species, it is believed to be what is occuring in ball pythons. Leucism is NOT a loss of pigment. The pigment is still there, hence the colored eyes. What is not there is the chromatophores. They are what hold the pigment in the skin cells.
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    Re: Black Pastel and Mohave breeding

    was not trying to start an argument, personally thought black pastave would be a decent name since black pastel spider was called a black bee.... So on that note what ever it is called I still think it will look awesome

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    Re: Black Pastel and Mohave breeding

    Sorry to hijack....Juz want a confirmation from the pros here what will be produced with this Pairing....

    Lesser Pastel X Pastel=

    Lesser, pastel, LesserPastel, Lesser SuperPastel (i cant find any pics of this anywhere...)

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    Re: Black Pastel and Mohave breeding

    Quote Originally Posted by RuGGeR View Post
    Sorry to hijack....Juz want a confirmation from the pros here what will be produced with this Pairing....

    Lesser Pastel X Pastel=

    Lesser, pastel, LesserPastel, Lesser SuperPastel (i cant find any pics of this anywhere...)
    Add normal and super pastel to the list and you should have it

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    Re: Black Pastel and Mohave breeding

    Sorry guys I will get pics up tomorrow hopefully My father is in the hospital so I wasnt blowing you off just been real busy......
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    Re: Black Pastel and Mohave breeding

    That looks like one of Sean's Cinny het pieds. His snakes are very nice quality btw. @ Jyson
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    Re: Black Pastel and Mohave breeding

    Here are some recent pics of him. He's at 130 grams and a great baby.









    Sorry they are not the best but they were taken with my point and shoot as my son has decieded that I should never see my good Canon Digital SLR again.........lol
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    Re: Black Pastel and Mohave breeding

    that looks pretty wicked......

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