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    Re: 14 months since this guy ate....

    Try putting him in a smaller tub.

    The flagyl thing seems to work well for a lot too.

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    Re: 14 months since this guy ate....

    He was in a smaller tub we he quit eating... I moved him up to see if that would make a difference.

    Gonna call my vet on monday, she doesn't usually do snakes but I think I can talk her into giving him some flagyl.
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    Re: 14 months since this guy ate....

    Just leave the ASF in there, in my opinion. My pastel, ED, went off feed for like 3 months, and I had to leave a mouse in his enclosure for a day and a half before he ate it. Its still been a struggle, but hes eatting regularly.

    If you take him to the vet, you can ask for a tube feeding with some flagyl mixed in, hopefully it'll kick start his feeding response.

    Just leave that ASF in there and don't bother him, he should take it in a day. He seems stressed, so let him go about his business for a few days. Meaning leave him alone, don't even open his tub for a day.
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    Re: 14 months since this guy ate....

    Hi,

    That really is a recipie for a badly chewed snake.


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    7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.

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    Re: 14 months since this guy ate....

    From an ASF? Its my understanding thier right in between mice and rats? I guess I wasn't worried because I did mine with a mouse, but if ASFs are really that much bigger, then yes, take it out and try it with a live mouse...
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    Re: 14 months since this guy ate....

    Quote Originally Posted by Bleepr View Post
    From an ASF? Its my understanding thier right in between mice and rats? I guess I wasn't worried because I did mine with a mouse, but if ASFs are really that much bigger, then yes, take it out and try it with a live mouse...
    I've left a mouse in with him overnight. When I got up in the morning the mouse was gone... I was like, "WHooo HOOOO!"

    Then I lifted the hide and the mouse was in there with the snake sleeping!
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    Re: 14 months since this guy ate....

    Hi,

    You got lucky.

    I'm sorry but that's the plain truth.

    A mouse can chew through a plank of wood. A snakes flesh poses no problems.

    If you are going to leave a feeder in with a snake unattended then you have to use one young enough not to have that kind of dentition and chewing power developed.

    In this case a fuzzy rat would be a better choice for unattended feeding overnight based on size.

    I'd take it out and try again at a later date.


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    Re: 14 months since this guy ate....

    I'm gonna call the doc monday and see if she will give him 100mg of flagyl orally with a syringe. I've done that sort of thing with mineral oil before to un-constipate a snake that had eaten too many long haired hamsters.
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    Re: 14 months since this guy ate....

    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    You got lucky.

    I'm sorry but that's the plain truth.

    A mouse can chew through a plank of wood. A snakes flesh poses no problems.

    If you are going to leave a feeder in with a snake unattended then you have to use one young enough not to have that kind of dentition and chewing power developed.

    In this case a fuzzy rat would be a better choice for unattended feeding overnight based on size.

    I'd take it out and try again at a later date.


    dr del

    Yeah, I know I was lucky! It was a weaned / hopper mouse so I decided to take a risk. I wouldn't suggest that anyone do that. I also left a nice pile of lab nuggets in there for him plus an apple slice. The apple slice was partially eaten and the nuggets were untouched. I actually did get up in the middle of the night (three hours in) and checked on him. He was cowering in a corner. Three hours later (when I got up) I checked again and that is when I found him in the hide.

    I for sure don't condone or recommend leaving an adult mouse or any rat with teeth in with a snake for any length of time. *edit: In fact I don't eschew feeding live prey at all if it can be avoided. I have had snakes (that were finicky with F/T) bitten hard by both adult mice and small rats. Luckily no major injuries, but some scarring occurred!

    You are spot on dr del!
    Last edited by wax32; 11-14-2009 at 05:15 PM.
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    Re: 14 months since this guy ate....

    Also, I have tried a live fuzzy rat overnight to no avail.

    I really do appreciate all the responses. I am willing to try anything that is SAFE for my snake. He may only be a $40 "normal" but he is a living creature that I care about, just like all my pets.
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