super cinnamon/super black pastel

[MarkS]

Well, the thing about the GCR line is that as far as I know, they were the VERY FIRST to produce a super... And it was extremely cool to see an all black ball python.... Unfortunately, those first animals they produced were also kinked with duckbills.

[TaylorS]

Well, the thing about the GCR line is that as far as I know, they were the VERY FIRST to produce a super... And it was extremely cool to see an all black ball python.... Unfortunately, those first animals they produced were also kinked with duckbills.

You know what grinds my gears a little? Everyone getting on the caramel "kink tail" bandwagon when there are other morphs with occ. issues (like duckbill) and I don't feel they are made as big of a deal.

[NorthernRegius]

Well, the thing about the GCR line is that as far as I know, they were the VERY FIRST to produce a super... And it was extremely cool to see an all black ball python.... Unfortunately, those first animals they produced were also kinked with duckbills.

Line breeding can enhance flaws, the first duckbills I saw were Cinny, but I have no definite knowledge of who produced the very 1st... I just picked the morph I liked best & got unrelated animals. It's worked for me so far.

You know what grinds my gears a little? Everyone getting on the caramel "kink tail" bandwagon when there are other morphs with occ. issues (like duckbill) and I don't feel they are made as big of a deal.

I agree that some morphs have their challenges and each breeder has to determine what they are willing to work with. I love the T+ Albinos but I had worked with another species before BPs that were homozygous lethal. I was able to reduce the 50% adv. defect that most breeders saw down to 25%, but that's still allot of deaths. That's a big reason I got out of that.

Minor defects that I can work around, I'll work with. But kinking- well that's increasing the chance that I'll have to put babies down. I'm hoping the Ultramels prove to be a line that doesn't have the issues that the other T+ do. If so, I may work with them eventually. If not I will have plenty of other stuff to work with. I respect each breeder's personal decisions to pursue the projects they love.