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    Re: At a loss

    I'd say it was probably a preexisting problem. So, like others have mentioned, I'd stay in contact with the breeder.
    In my experience, I've found ball pythons to be pretty hardy animals when given the proper conditions to thrive.
    Also, quarintine and see the vet.
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    Re: At a loss

    When I get one with a really dehydrated shed, I fill their tub up half an inch with warm water, stick a paper towel in with them and push it back into the rack. I might even take up a whole shelf if it's a 6qt tub and put the whole tub on the flexwatt. Helps get everything heated up and humidifies the tub. Kind of like a rain chamber. The snakes seem to like it and all the shed is off in the morning. Sometimes I leave them a full 24 hours just to get rehydrated.
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    Thanks all!

    He has poo'd and gave me urates since I got him. So I think all is working well with that. I'm going to call my vet tomorrow and see if he will take a look at him.
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    Re: At a loss

    I'd soak him overnight.
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    Allison, do you have any pics?
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    Re: At a loss

    He's been soaking for the past hour and I now am going to leave him soaking over night over a piece of flexwatt, with a paper towel in there with him.

    I tried to get pictures of his belly, but easier said then done. He kept moving. I will get some better ones in the morning.
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    Re: At a loss

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Bowden View Post
    I'd say it was probably a preexisting problem. So, like others have mentioned, I'd stay in contact with the breeder.
    In my experience, I've found ball pythons to be pretty hardy animals when given the proper conditions to thrive.
    Also, quarintine and see the vet.

    Not necessarily. If everyone hasn't noticed, BG usually comes to the defense of the breeder. Why is that? Because a million years of experience has told him that people NEVER EVER take responsibility when they do something wrong that causes a problem with their snake. It's ALWAYS the breeder/sellers fault.

    Now...having said all that. In this case it may well be his/her fault, but it is your fault that you have waited so long to do something about it in all honesty Lilly....and now it may be too late. (sorry...BG tells it like it is) BG is gonna help yah now.

    BG will now skip the 3rd person because this is serious.

    Don't do anymore soaking. You need to get this snake to a QUALIFIED(HUGE emphasis on QUALIFIED) Vet asap....like now. When a snake regurgitates it's meal, it can be something simple....like the temps were not right...but it may be something else. I will usually treat a snake that does this with Flagyl, then wait a week or so and feed it a small meal. Sometimes you really need to "baby" them back with small meals for a while. It's much worse when a boa does this, but it can be just as lethal when a Ball does it.

    You really need to get this snake to a VET NOW. Your snake may have already gone septic and it may be too late. Good luck to you, but don't do anything else but get your snake to a VET.....NOW!!!!!!!!

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    Re: At a loss

    Just in case people are wondering why BG is so sure people never take responsibility. It's because BG has seen many friends blame the breeder when they themselves have done something wrong. He has also gotten the truth out of many people that have denied any wrong doing in the past. To be honest, more often than not in BG's opinion it is the fault of the buyer, not the seller.

    Unfortunately when a breeder sells a snake he can't go home with it to make sure it gets proper care. People ALWAYS...let BG say that again...ALWAYS say they are doing everything 100% right. Usually when there is a problem....they are not.

    Please don't think BG is blaming you Lilly. He definitely is not. Big Gunns just hates when thread start like this and the breeder starts getting blamed for selling crap and all the facts can't be proven.

    BG really does want to help you and he hopes you listen to him.

    ps. BG didn't sell her the snake.

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    Re: At a loss

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gunns View Post
    Just in case people are wondering why BG is so sure people never take responsibility. It's because BG has seen many friends blame the breeder when they themselves have done something wrong. He has also gotten the truth out of many people that have denied any wrong doing in the past. To be honest, more often than not in BG's opinion it is the fault of the buyer, not the seller.

    Unfortunately when a breeder sells a snake he can't go home with it to make sure it gets proper care. People ALWAYS...let BG say that again...ALWAYS say they are doing everything 100% right. Usually when there is a problem....they are not.

    Please don't think BG is blaming you Lilly. He definitely is not. Big Gunns just hates when thread start like this and the breeder starts getting blamed for selling crap and all the facts can't be proven.

    BG really does want to help you and he hopes you listen to him.

    ps. BG didn't sell her the snake.
    I agree! My friend is a breeder with great quality snakes and I got mine from him with no issues ever but some peole do come back and say you sold my crap. It is clear that the snake was not taken care of but they never admit to their wrong doing! Not saying this is the case here! Hope all goes well with the snake in question!

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    First wow I just thanked BG never thought I would do that, and thank you BG for coming out of third person to give that excelent explination of what to do. You do know your stuff no matter what anyone else says.

    Now to the OP do exactly what BG said. I know in my experience selling and buying snakes 80% of the time it is the buyers fault 100% for most situations. For this I do think there might be some fault with the breeder but not all of it. The animals should have been taken to the vet the day it regurged it's food. Any snake I have no matter how long I have had it ,1 day in my care to my oldest being 13 years old, any of them regurge they go straight to the vet no questions asked.

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