Venomous Yes Or No?

[Simpson Balls]

Do rear fanged count? I'd love to have a FWC, Hognose, and Mangrove one day...

If I had the money to responsibly care for a hot, I definitely would. Keeping the supply of anti-venom alone is a potential cost of thousands...
That brings me to a question...Do the hot keepers on this site, especially those with other people living in their home, keep a supply of anti-venom?

No they don't count. Basically it's anything that can kill or make you sick.

Daniel

[mainbutter]

Many rear fangs CAN make you sick, and some can kill you.

Many snakes we consider venomous have a less dangerous bite than some of the most dangerous rear fanged venomous snakes out there.

Don't forget that boomslangs are rear-fangers.

[Crazy4Herps]

I'm very curious.... How are constrictors different from hots in this regard? Why are our pythons, boas and colubrids "happy" being kept in captivity, but a snake with venom would not be? They're all still snakes, with the same basic needs (security, consistent environment, food, water)...they just go about dispatching their prey in a different manner.

As far as the poll question goes....I fall into the camp that loves hots as much as I love all snakes, but would never choose to keep one myself because of the high degree of risk involved in doing so. There are too many stunningly beautiful non-deadly snakes out there to keep them all....so I don't feel any strong need to add hots to that list, no matter how beautiful they are.

I believe that the selective breeding of constrictors in captivity for so many, many years is why I get the feeling that they're "happier" in captivity than hots. I am very opposed to keeping any WC snake, or ones that haven't been reproduced in captivity for more than a few generations. The vast majority of the captive hots I've seen and heard about are WC or whose parents or grandparents were WC. Correct me I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that they're very difficult to breed.

For me at least, it's simply the keeping of animals that are not completely adjusted to captivity that I do not support.

(I mean no offense to those of you who keep hots, it's just not my thing.)

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

Ive always loved and been facinated by hots but i wouldnt own one.

My only reason behind this is i dont want something that i cant touch and hold like you can with BP's. My only exception is my fish aquarium and i have held a couple of the fish lol. Large pleco's cannot be netted for fear of injuring their fins or spines so i just pick them up by hand to transfer them.

As for the gun statement. I have a 5 year old. I have firearms and knives. Its called responsibility. I was raised in a home full of weapons but i knew what would happen if i ever tried to touch any of them. My parents tought me right. Im educated and responsible about them and I have no worries about my son.

Hots on the other hand. Id want to hold it and id get mad that i couldnt. I do love eyelash vipers though.

[Denial]

I believe that the selective breeding of constrictors in captivity for so many, many years is why I get the feeling that they're "happier" in captivity than hots. I am very opposed to keeping any WC snake, or ones that haven't been reproduced in captivity for more than a few generations. The vast majority of the captive hots I've seen and heard about are WC or whose parents or grandparents were WC. Correct me I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that they're very difficult to breed.

For me at least, it's simply the keeping of animals that are not completely adjusted to captivity that I do not support.

(I mean no offense to those of you who keep hots, it's just not my thing.)

There are many c.b. venomous animals in the trade today. There are a ton of people that breed monocled cobras and the various morphs with that species and you can usually find c.b. venomous snakes if you look around. There just isnt as large of a market with them as there are with constrictors. People have been breeding venomous snakes just as long as nonvenomous snakes.

Snakes in general are misunderstood but poor venomous snakes are hit even harder. People are terrified of rattlesnakes and copperheads around here but they dont understand that the snake is 100 times more scared of us then we are of them. My copperhead is very laid back and rarely ever shows any signs of being aggitated and ready to strike. Shes struck at me I believe twice since Ive owned her. Our cobra is very aggressive in her enclosure (like alot of snakes) and does alot of bluff striking she will strike but wont actually have her mouth open but once you get her out you she gets very calm you put her in a tub and she lowers her hood and just becomes very curious. She hasnt hooded up and attempted to strike at me outside of her enclosure

[Simpson Balls]

Would any buy it if there venom was taken out?

Daniel

[Skiploder]

No they don't count. Basically it's anything that can kill or make you sick.

Daniel

So are you saying that no rear fanged snakes can kill you or make you sick?

[mikels]

I like venomous snakes,but I dont have the trainning, and if I want to interact with them I can go down the road to a friends house. I have kids and would not chance that!!

[SGExotics]

Would any buy it if there venom was taken out?

Daniel

Thats impossible.. Thats like saying, would anyone buy you if your saliva was taken out lol... They produce venom in their venom glands like we produce saliva....

[Denial]

I like venomous snakes,but I dont have the trainning, and if I want to interact with them I can go down the road to a friends house. I have kids and would not chance that!!

I understand your concern but As long as they are caged properly and away from your children you should never have to chance anything.