I do not know if Ralph has kinked Caramels, or if he infacts sells Kinked Caramels. I am talking about quality of snakes that are purchased for the sole purpose of breeding. If you buy a kinked caramel to use as a breeder, I think that is piss poor thinking, no matter what the price is. If you purchase a spider that ties itself in knots just because it is a few dollars less, to use as your breeder male, that is again, poor thinking and poor planning. I have seen and heard of people passing up a NICE Pastel to buy an ugly one, just to save $20.

Sure, price should be one of many considerations when buying a Ball, but if it is the only one, and you intend on starting a breeding program, I think you are going to be sorely dissapointed down the line.

Dave