Culling Healthy Animals

[Adam_Wysocki]

I bring it here because this is the place that it matters themost.

Or maybe because 6 months ago when you "brought it" to your own forum, so many people were disgusted by your ideas that you wanted to try and find acceptance somewhere else?

I am am pointing out that we could be hurting ourselves by what we are doing, and offered what I do (and what others have done or do, and don't like to talk about) as a solution.

I'd like to point out something else that could be hurting ourselves ... indifference. Lack of compassion for life. Valuation over compassion. I'd like to offer this as a solution ... the faster we get rid of breeders that treat these precious animals as mere widgets, the better off we, this hobby, and this business will be. My suggestion is about as equally practical as your and with mine, no animals have to die.

In the case of carpet pythons this isn't true. The reason is, unlike ball Pythons ...

But you said this in your first post ...

but this arguement can be made for Normal Balls as well

You're flailing again.

they have to end up someplace

And I would suggest that if you are not willing to find them good, responsible homes ... then you shouldn't be breeding.

You want to justify killing of snakes by claiming that you're saving them from a miserable life, but you are the reason they have a life in the first place ... so if you're seriously that concerned about it, don't breed. (I think this sentiment was expressed time and time again on the thread in your forum that you keep talking about ... did you expect a different result elsewhere?)

Besides, it a useless death, which I don't feel really good about.

All death is useless. In the case of farm product or animal feeders, some death is necessary, but I'd hope most would never consider it "meaningful". One of the huge problems that I see here is that you acquired animals to feed your "cull" to in order to justify killing snakes. That's more than a little disturbing when you really think about it.

So is selling 100 of them at once on the cheap to get rid of them.

Why do you keep assuming that that is how most animals are sold? Maybe in your jaded world of living creatures being on par with hand held electronics, but there is a gigantic segment of the herp community that actually cares about each and every animal that they produce. I'm sorry that you've been around for such a "LONG TIME" that you've lost touch with that and only see the herp community through the ugly glasses of volume and profit. That may be the way for some, but certainly not all, and I believe not most.

It does exactly the same thing, and I actually make more money, not less.

Right. Money. Yup.

Blessings,

-adam