High White Spider?

[Sarin]

What's the point of that? Buy something you like, breed it, then keep it to produce more of what you like... Seems logical to me..

[Simpson Balls]

What's the point of that? Buy something you like, breed it, then keep it to produce more of what you like... Seems logical to me..

Ummm.... Did you not get me in a recent post? I said "I don't like High White Spiders but I do like High White BumbleBees" I think it's a plan that would work. Keep it and then breed it and then sell it. Also can you guys please read the first post once again. Why does this happen to some post? Where people like me ask a question and it turns into a war after ten posts.

Daniel

[bads15]

i like high white spiders. tell you what you picked it up for $100. i'll give you $150. that's a 50% profit. if you don't want it that is.

[rabernet]

I guess I'll wait for one thats just right. I like high white Bumblebees though and only have a low white Spider. Should I get it breed it and sell it or is there not a point of doing such thing? Is that a dumb idea?

Daniel

Really, only you can answer that for yourself and how that fits into your business plan.

I'd use a high white spider when breeding for high white bumblebees. What you do with that male after that is a decision only you can make for yourself.

You might find out that you like high white after all.

I used to be a low white fan, but I've now become more of a high white fan, now that I have both in my collection.

And for me, it's not just about the white, but also the pattern, the symmetry of the head pattern, etc.

[Freakie_frog]

One thing to keep in mind.. the amount of white a spider has varys. High white parents can throw low white off spring and low white can produce high white.

[Simpson Balls]

Really, only you can answer that for yourself and how that fits into your business plan.

I'd use a high white spider when breeding for high white bumblebees. What you do with that male after that is a decision only you can make for yourself.

You might find out that you like high white after all.

I used to be a low white fan, but I've now become more of a high white fan, now that I have both in my collection.

And for me, it's not just about the white, but also the pattern, the symmetry of the head pattern, etc.

Thanks for the post,

I just got picks of the Spider and his so called High whites are not really high there are somewhere in the middle. I like middle so whites there nice.

Heres the pic.


Also forgot to mention he is a proven breeder.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/gallery/...20_174579.jpeg

Daniel

[Simpson Balls]

One thing to keep in mind.. the amount of white a spider has varys. High white parents can throw low white off spring and low white can produce high white.

Thats a fact I did not know. Thanks alot,

Daniel

[dr del]

Hi,

Have you asked him why he is choosing to sell a 1000g spider for $100?

Because it is the first thing that I wondered.

It might be fine (obviously ) I just would have expected it to sell for more as a proven breeder male.


dr del

[Simpson Balls]

Hi,

Have you asked him why he is choosing to sell a 1000g spider for $100?

Because it is the first thing that I wondered.

It might be fine (obviously ) I just would have expected it to sell for more as a proven breeder male.


dr del

Umm... I already said that. The reason is, is because he does not need the Spider morph no more in his projects and plans on expanding to something else. Also he is selling it for 100 because he is having a hard time selling it which I find weird for a proven spider.

Daniel

[dr del]

Hi,

I think I can answer the question in your first post below for you.

In this specific case it is because you do not include the qualifying information that lets people fully understand your thinking in the first post but do include all the words, concepts and phrases that throw up major red flags to people who have seen similar sentiments expressed before and watched it turn into a horrible, horrible situation.

I will underline all the things that should have been in the first post and bold all the words or phrases that really, really shouldn't ( or be phrased differently ) if you want to avoid these reactions;

Ummm.... Did you not get me in a recent post? I said "I don't like High White Spiders but I do like High White BumbleBees" I think it's a plan that would work. Keep it and then breed it and then sell it. Also can you guys please read the first post once again. Why does this happen to some post? Where people like me ask a question and it turns into a war after ten posts.

Daniel

Okay so I'm thinking of buying a cheap High White Spider and I don't really like High Whites but the price is just great. Anyway is there a morph that I could breed this Spider Male to, to get low white Spiders. Is this even Possible. By the way he is 1000g just in case anyone would want to know

Daniel

This mismatch of info and phrases gave the impression you wanted to buy it only because it was cheap with no regard for the animal itself and we have seen people do similar things in the past that didn't turn out so well for the snake.

The snake involved is really low priced for its size and breeding status which makes most people who have been around a bit longer deeply suspicious until they have asked questions and been reassured everything is on the up and up. The fact you were unaware of the randomness of the white makes me wonder how aware you are of the wobble issue and the possible damage that can be caused by over breeding - all questions you would really want to ask before buying a breeding size spider at the end of a breeding season just as a matter of course. ( well I would being a belt and braces kind of guy ).

When coupled to your thread about buying wild caught snakes in bulk to re-sell not that long ago sends shivers up a lot of spines as it suggests you really might be looking at this hobby/ industry from the wrong perspective.

We do not know you and can only judge your intent and character by what you post on the forum - and since that is text based it is not always plain what someone really meant to say compared to the way you read it with no other clues.

Enthusiasm and dreams can easily come across as inconsistancy and money-hunger without the rest of the clues people get when talking face to face. This then taints everything else written afterwards and can give a totally false impression of someones character.

When you make a post re-read it to yourself and see if you can imagine anyone asking questions or taking offense then change the post to answer and avoid that happening. It will take you a bit longer to post a thread - but it does mean the thread has more of a chance of going in the direction you intended instead of getting sidetracked and not giving you the information you need.

Sorry, I didn't mean to type a novel at you but it was a complicated question and I thought it deserved an answer as accurate as I know how to give.


dr del