Price drops

[jglass38]

LOL. That is so funny, right?

Nate dog is my homey...

[kris62901]

extremely funnyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Jason Bowden]

jpglass38--- Most of my snakes have shipped through fedex for about $65. Yes, shipping costs matters.
Glad to see you've kept up with this craziness you started. LOL
When I was growing up, I saved up birthday and christmas money to purchase a green iguana for $129(before taxes). Go to Texas flea market and see what they are selling for now.
By the way, this has been a fun post!

[PythonWallace]

I've read a lot of this thread, but not all of it...so if I repeat something someone else has said...my apologies.

I think a primary reason the "supply & demand" point does not hold water is that we are not talking about national economics here. We're not talking about local economics either. It's not a matter of folks NEEDING certain items to get by in life and counting on other folks to produce those items.

For 98% of the people involved in this "business" of breeding and selling animals, it is a hobby. And the vast majority of those 98% have little-to-no clue about business models, price projections, market value, competition, promotion, etc etc. So...they are going to price their animals at whatever value they think best for themselves. They will usually base their prices on completely irrelevant issues...and a whole crowd of inexperienced "business people" may follow suit because if "Joebob" sells his spiders at $xx, then I'd better sell mine for less or I'll never move them.

NONE of that has anything to do with "supply & demand" driving the prices of these animals. Add on top of that the fact that we're dealing with what is essentially a LUXURY hobby....people's motivations for both buying and selling are all over the map and it will be impossible to force price trends to follow a certain desired path.

Judy wins! This is the answer to my questions from page 20. Somebody gets it!

PM me your address, Judy. You win a prize.

[Mike Cavanaugh]

Judy wins! This is the answer to my questions from page 20. Somebody gets it!

PM me your address, Judy. You win a prize.

But wait didn't I say it first? I can't remember and I am NOT about to read thru this whole thread again!

[PythonWallace]

But wait didn't I say it first? I can't remember and I am NOT about to read thru this whole thread again!

Could be, but I'm not going back either. I thought I said it first, in a response to Wes, but I don't think anyone read it.

[accidental777]

I have read the first 17 pages of this. After hanging around this forum and other forums, I can understand some of the reasons why prices are so low. It has much to do with what JLC posted.
It seems that there are a ton of people that want to buy and eventually breed ball pythons, this much we can agree on. There are two different types of people that are doing this. The kind that have a respect for the animals, and have the drive and common sense to do the research first, and the people who expect others to hand it to them.
I see a lot of people that buy the snakes, and then want to ask millions of questions about feeding, what morph will this make, what should I breed this snake to, etc.
Now, before I get flamed.....I understand that this is a forum, and it is a good thing to ask questions. But, a lot of the questions can already be answered in stickied f.a.q.s
And if someone is soooo very ready to jump into this business, why are they so lazy that they can not even google or web research something??? I would think that if I were going to invest in something (or some kind of animal) I would want to know as much as I could about the said investment before I stuck money into it.
The biggest problem I see here is lack of research, and lack of education. People who aren't ready to own a business that involves keeping and breeding animals.

[PythonWallace]

I have read the first 17 pages of this. After hanging around this forum and other forums, I can understand some of the reasons why prices are so low. It has much to do with what JLC posted.
It seems that there are a ton of people that want to buy and eventually breed ball pythons, this much we can agree on. There are two different types of people that are doing this. The kind that have a respect for the animals, and have the drive and common sense to do the research first, and the people who expect others to hand it to them.
I see a lot of people that buy the snakes, and then want to ask millions of questions about feeding, what morph will this make, what should I breed this snake to, etc.
Now, before I get flamed.....I understand that this is a forum, and it is a good thing to ask questions. But, a lot of the questions can already be answered in stickied f.a.q.s
And if someone is soooo very ready to jump into this business, why are they so lazy that they can not even google or web research something??? I would think that if I were going to invest in something (or some kind of animal) I would want to know as much as I could about the said investment before I stuck money into it.
The biggest problem I see here is lack of research, and lack of education. People who aren't ready to own a business that involves keeping and breeding animals.

I would like to add all the people who jump in with no business plan or any kind of knowledge about how to properly market something. Those people who produce of bunch of baby snakes, put up an add on KS, and when they don't sell out realize that they don't have a clue what to do next, so they put up another add with drastically reduced prices, and repeat until they all have practically given away all their babies and helped to drop the market prices for the morphs they produced, because they had no idea what they were doing when they jumped in with two feet. Then they do the same thing the following year, if they don't drop out of the game after the first experience, without doing any more research and without coming up with a better plan than they had the first year.

[Haydenphoto]

Well your going to love this ! I got on kingsnake today and now it looks like the pied are dropping to there was 2 on there for 800.00 each pretty nice looking snakes too !

[PythonWallace]

Well your going to love this ! I got on kingsnake today and now it looks like the pied are dropping to there was 2 on there for 800.00 each pretty nice looking snakes too !

That's a great price. You should buy them. I'm sure they are perfect in every way.