thanks a lot guys! we will be attending the BCRC show and sale in BC, Canada this september, hoping to pick up a pair to make white snakes! also, im getting a male pastel, a pair of caramel corns, a pair of bloodred corns, hopefully some striped or het stripe corns, and who knows what else! recently i`ve fallen hopelessly in love with caramel albinos...but they seem very, very pricey. henry piorun had some advertised for $3000 each! i have no idea if those prices are current or not though, so i guess we`ll see when we get to the show!